[meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites

From: Brian Cox <searchingforfun_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:49:20 -0500
Message-ID: <A0842B5114234F99A6228EFC91FC7822_at_user6e6e286533>

Hi Rob,

Thanks for opining. I was honestly just writing what I was told by several
others and did not mean to get into an argument with Dirk, but felt that at
this late hour of 12:45am, that I felt Dirk was angry and I apologize to him
if I came across as angry or defensive and I will include him in this email
to you Rob.

Thanks again,

Brian



Take it easy!



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Wesel" <rob at nakhladogmeteorites.com>
To: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before
NWAs,Northwest African meteorites


>I will opine that Kem Kem did have a bit of the catchall going for it but
>it did not precede NWA numbering
>
> The SA or Sahara numbers were first
>
> Other catchalls may include Oum Rokba (NWA400), NWA 869, Franconia, Dho
> 020
>
> And let's slip in an ad...NWA 001 available here
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280383448019
>
> Rob Wesel
> www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
> www.facebook.com/nakhladog
> ------------------
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:06 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before
> NWAs,Northwest African meteorites
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dirk,
>>
>> Why are you so angry? Your use of CAPS in INCORRECTLY and rambling on
>> about
>> hippies and food and Berber shave and Burma shave and all kinds of things
>> that sound like you're high or drunk. Are you made at me about something
>> or
>> what has gotten into you? Is it because I asked your opinion on something
>> or
>> that I didn't buy any meteorites from you after asking you if you had
>> certain specimens?
>>
>> I think it's inappropriate that you sent this to the list and went on and
>> on
>> about it. If you were clear headed you would have been able to tell that
>> I
>> wrote in the paragraph I sent that I was 'told' this information and NOT
>> that it was my personal opinion, and I will print it here again:
>>
>> "I was 'told' from our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA
>> members for what we now call "NWAs" "Northwest African" meteorites."
>>
>> I did NOT state this was my view, nor did I state that this was the
>> gospel
>> from me. I stated, again, "That I was told by others on the list, and
>> IMCA
>> members and if you had been reading the posts you would have read those."
>> Everyone has said Kem Kem was a generic name and it seems to have DUG up
>> a
>> lot of old painful memories for you and you seem to be spewing them out
>> here
>> in anger at me.
>>
>> Please calm down and relax and read it again later today or in the
>> evening
>> when you can understand it better without jumping down my throat.
>>
>> There is something more than just my quote here that is angering you and
>> I
>> can't help you with that.
>>
>> Regards and all the best to you.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>; <"meteorite-
>>> list"_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before
>>> NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Brian and List,
>>> Brian your are incorrect in your history lesson.
>>> Michael Casper announced in his December 1999 catalogue that "a new find
>>> out of Morocco- Kem-Kem" was "Found in August, 1999. Stone.
>>> Classification pending. Kem Kem, Dahara, Morocco". Casper`s catalogue
>>> lists:
>>> 22.4g _at_ $44.80;
>>> 26.9g_at_ $53.80
>>> 31.5g_at_ $63.00
>>> 33.5g_at_ $67.00
>>> 41.0g_at_ $82.00
>>> 46.8g_at_ $93.60
>>> 53.2g_at_ $106.40
>>> 58.6g_at_ $117.20
>>> 67.4g_at_ $134.80
>>> 70.0g_at_ $140.00
>>> 83.1g_at_ $166.20
>>> 114.9g_at_ $229.80
>>> 153.6g_at_ $307.20
>>>
>>> In the same catalogue, he (Casper) has a multi-kilo piece photographed,
>>> which I purchased. Kem-Kem was NOT a catch-all term for the meteorites
>>> of NWA (Moroc/Algeria) at the time, as you wrote.
>>>
>>> So please do not confuse the messy history of the NWAs by INCORRECTLY
>>> calling Kem-Kem the orginal generic name before NWAs.
>>>
>>> I was in Morocco in December 2000- January 2001 for six weeks and at
>>> Kem-Kem prior/during the sale of NWA482 in the year of the planetary
>>> alignment and eclipse... there were UK-Euro-hippies by the busloads for
>>> the huge festival and arrested development.
>>> The only great "hunter" that I ran into while I was there was Dean
>>> Bessey in his Fiat at Merzouga (he dismounted his for shade); prior to
>>> Bessey Specks perhaps not?
>>>
>>> Missed seeing Mike Farmer, Strope and others; but, I did spot a mad
>>> German or Austrian at the petrol stop during the heat of the day. Also
>>> missed the Great Habibi!
>>>
>>> When in Erfoud don`t miss out on the daily variety of Targine beef,
>>> mutton or chicken and 30 glasses of mint tea.
>>>
>>> At the end of six weeks of wearing Berber you will be blue...Idir met
>>> Idir et Kem-Kem! Truly an awesome experience to be at Kem-Kem at SunSet
>>> on top of a tall hill and watch the winter shadows fall.
>>>
>>> Forget the Berber Shave and stick with Burma Shave if you are
>>> searchingforfun.
>>>
>>> Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before
>>>> NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>>> Here is a link to my 19.7 gram Kem
>>>> Kem meteorite specimen, originally from Planet Brey
>>>> meteorites about 9-10 years ago. Kem Kem was the name that
>>>> was used approximately between 1999-2001, I was told, from
>>>> our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA members
>>>> for what we now call "NWAs" "Northwest African" meteorites.
>>>>
>>>> I added a photo of the original COA/card from Planet Brey
>>>> just now in this auction.
>>>>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/KEM-KEM-Meteorite-19-7g-IMCA-COA-Unclass-Probably-H5_W0QQitemZ270440268847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef77f042f&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, and clear happy meteorite filled skies tonight!
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> IMCA # 6387
>>>>
>>>> searchingforfun is my
>>>> ebay User ID
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