[meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites

From: Rob Wesel <rob_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:42:38 -0700
Message-ID: <004E897718044FF4AC156630E681FEA2_at_windows9bb74fe>

I will opine that Kem Kem did have a bit of the catchall going for it but it
did not precede NWA numbering

The SA or Sahara numbers were first

Other catchalls may include Oum Rokba (NWA400), NWA 869, Franconia, Dho 020

And let's slip in an ad...NWA 001 available here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280383448019

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before
NWAs,Northwest African meteorites


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> Dirk,
>
> Why are you so angry? Your use of CAPS in INCORRECTLY and rambling on
> about
> hippies and food and Berber shave and Burma shave and all kinds of things
> that sound like you're high or drunk. Are you made at me about something
> or
> what has gotten into you? Is it because I asked your opinion on something
> or
> that I didn't buy any meteorites from you after asking you if you had
> certain specimens?
>
> I think it's inappropriate that you sent this to the list and went on and
> on
> about it. If you were clear headed you would have been able to tell that I
> wrote in the paragraph I sent that I was 'told' this information and NOT
> that it was my personal opinion, and I will print it here again:
>
> "I was 'told' from our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA
> members for what we now call "NWAs" "Northwest African" meteorites."
>
> I did NOT state this was my view, nor did I state that this was the gospel
> from me. I stated, again, "That I was told by others on the list, and IMCA
> members and if you had been reading the posts you would have read those."
> Everyone has said Kem Kem was a generic name and it seems to have DUG up a
> lot of old painful memories for you and you seem to be spewing them out
> here
> in anger at me.
>
> Please calm down and relax and read it again later today or in the evening
> when you can understand it better without jumping down my throat.
>
> There is something more than just my quote here that is angering you and I
> can't help you with that.
>
> Regards and all the best to you.
>
> Brian
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>; <"meteorite-
>> list"_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before
>> NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Brian and List,
>> Brian your are incorrect in your history lesson.
>> Michael Casper announced in his December 1999 catalogue that "a new find
>> out of Morocco- Kem-Kem" was "Found in August, 1999. Stone.
>> Classification pending. Kem Kem, Dahara, Morocco". Casper`s catalogue
>> lists:
>> 22.4g _at_ $44.80;
>> 26.9g_at_ $53.80
>> 31.5g_at_ $63.00
>> 33.5g_at_ $67.00
>> 41.0g_at_ $82.00
>> 46.8g_at_ $93.60
>> 53.2g_at_ $106.40
>> 58.6g_at_ $117.20
>> 67.4g_at_ $134.80
>> 70.0g_at_ $140.00
>> 83.1g_at_ $166.20
>> 114.9g_at_ $229.80
>> 153.6g_at_ $307.20
>>
>> In the same catalogue, he (Casper) has a multi-kilo piece photographed,
>> which I purchased. Kem-Kem was NOT a catch-all term for the meteorites of
>> NWA (Moroc/Algeria) at the time, as you wrote.
>>
>> So please do not confuse the messy history of the NWAs by INCORRECTLY
>> calling Kem-Kem the orginal generic name before NWAs.
>>
>> I was in Morocco in December 2000- January 2001 for six weeks and at
>> Kem-Kem prior/during the sale of NWA482 in the year of the planetary
>> alignment and eclipse... there were UK-Euro-hippies by the busloads for
>> the huge festival and arrested development.
>> The only great "hunter" that I ran into while I was there was Dean Bessey
>> in his Fiat at Merzouga (he dismounted his for shade); prior to Bessey
>> Specks perhaps not?
>>
>> Missed seeing Mike Farmer, Strope and others; but, I did spot a mad
>> German or Austrian at the petrol stop during the heat of the day. Also
>> missed the Great Habibi!
>>
>> When in Erfoud don`t miss out on the daily variety of Targine beef,
>> mutton or chicken and 30 glasses of mint tea.
>>
>> At the end of six weeks of wearing Berber you will be blue...Idir met
>> Idir et Kem-Kem! Truly an awesome experience to be at Kem-Kem at SunSet
>> on top of a tall hill and watch the winter shadows fall.
>>
>> Forget the Berber Shave and stick with Burma Shave if you are
>> searchingforfun.
>>
>> Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before
>>> NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>> Here is a link to my 19.7 gram Kem
>>> Kem meteorite specimen, originally from Planet Brey
>>> meteorites about 9-10 years ago. Kem Kem was the name that
>>> was used approximately between 1999-2001, I was told, from
>>> our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA members
>>> for what we now call "NWAs" "Northwest African" meteorites.
>>>
>>> I added a photo of the original COA/card from Planet Brey
>>> just now in this auction.
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/KEM-KEM-Meteorite-19-7g-IMCA-COA-Unclass-Probably-H5_W0QQitemZ270440268847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef77f042f&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
>>>
>>> Thanks, and clear happy meteorite filled skies tonight!
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> IMCA # 6387
>>>
>>> searchingforfun is my
>>> ebay User ID
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