[meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

From: Sean T. Murray <stm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:17:02 -0500
Message-ID: <002901c87e02$6b6d2ad0$6501a8c0_at_platinum>

Folks,

I've seen that piece up close and personal - there is no doubt it is
oriented.
Simply a matter of how the student was holding the specimen.

Elton does make a good point about how some dealers are scrambling to
add the word "Oriented" or even Crust / Bullet / Hole, etc. to their
descriptions since it has become more desireable from a marketting
standpoint. I see it a lot, and I'm pretty new to this field. It's
educators
like Dave that have been setting me straight as I learn and grow in the
hobby.

In this case, it was simply just a picture of the wrong side of the rock
that released some frustration.

Sean.

----- Original Message -----
From: <info at niger-meteorite-recon.de>
To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone


> Elton, others,
>
> in this case, and regarding the thoroughly curated and painstakingly
> documented collection Dave keeps, I would rather trust the owner's
> judgement instead of your photo interpretation skills - however visionary
> they may be.
>
> Besides there is currently no need to defend Dave as you have not provided
> a single point why the stone pictured should not be oriented. You may
> consider this in your concept of science.
>
> just my two cents
>
> Svend
>
>
>
>
> --- Mr EMan <mstreman53 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate
>> caption please
>> defend it.
>>
>> "Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain
>> High School,
>> confirming the weight of a fresh, ">>>ORIENTED<<<"
>> 32.6 kg
>> chondrite"???
>> <http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html>
>> This is too early
>> for April 1st.
>>
>> To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over
>> all we had to do was
>> continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every
>> other meteorite we
>> see is "oriented". We know this is the truth
>> because any new commer,
>> meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an
>> "expert" at identifying
>> and describing meteorite surface features.
>>
>> If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite "oriented"--
>> anyone may do so
>> without a pittance of proof and no one on this list
>> will ever object.
>> Because we refuse to define "oriented".
>>
>> Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell
>> from my table to the
>> floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY
>> single meteorite
>> "oriented" I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented
>> having traveled
>> through the atmosphere. Given the wide latitude
>> used in claiming
>> orientation no one can disprove that I am not
>> correct.
>>
>> (OH YEAH and it has perfect fusion crust because
>> its drop was extended
>> for several seconds over a candle flame before
>> reaching the floor).
>>
>> I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion
>> crusted,
>> sphere-shaped "fall" and under the unfettered
>> latitude we allow amongst
>> meteorite collectors no one can prove my description
>> wrong.
>>
>> So is this a hobby or a study of science?
>>
>> Continually Baffled,
>> Elton
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