[meteorite-list] Caveat Emptor: Beware of Bob Evans!

From: John Gwilliam <jkg2_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:32:00 -0700
Message-ID: <20081214173205.MVTM2948.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net_at_fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>

Everyone in the meteorite community is affected in a negative way by
people like Bob. By not speaking up it can appear that his
disreputable and illegal behavior is condoned by his peers. Yes,
that's right, his peers. Until you stand up and openly condemn this
unacceptable behavior, that is what you and I are.

Best,
John

At 10:04 AM 12/14/2008, Mike Miller wrote:
>I know this community is not set up as a democracy, but I as a list
>member feel that I am condoning bad conduct if it is allowed to take
>place in my community without a very loud voice against it. In this
>case I think there has been enough brought to light on the subject to
>remove the offending person. If we do not then we are saying let his
>voice be heard, and by allowing it in our midst we say (by our actions
>or lack of it) that his voice speaks the truth. I don't even know if
>Bob is still on this list, but I feel he should not be allowed to post
>if he is still here. So I will cast that vote that I really don't have
>and say Art please remove this very questionable seller of maybes.
>
>On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:30 AM, al mitterling <almitt at kconline.com> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Since bob has sent this to the list, I will reply. One item you have
> > misrepresented is Plymouth, Indiana. The buyer of that has contacted you
> > many times trying to get their money back and has never had any success and
> > he has tried hard. This buyer contacted me to thank me for my
> post and tell
> > me about his fruitless efforts with you. There have been questions about a
> > great number of your other items and the pedigree. Some of which you said
> > you purchased as an exchange from a university but they say they never had
> > contact with you.
> >
> > Your criminal behavior is a problem for the whole collecting and selling
> > meteorite community. If you could offer up proof where your items of
> > question came from then it might give you some of your reputation back.
> > However in your email you mention that you don't have to let anyone know
> > where you get your items from. To me, that tells a lot about you.
> > Serious problems like this need to be brought out in the open and people
> > warned.
> >
> > I agree with Dave Gheesling, Art, please remove the trash from the list.
> >
> > --AL Mitterling
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoshuaTreeMuseum"
> > <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>
> > To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:25 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Caveat Emptor: Beware of Bob Evans!
> >
> >
> >> First off, kudos to Al Mitterling for pointing out the riffy, illegal
> >> business practices of Bob Evans. I'm surprised no one else has
> called out
> >> this onion in the daisy patch. Bob Evans has made thousands of dollars
> >> selling misrepresented meteorites to unsuspecting customers, notably
> >> Plymouth and Zulu Queen. I know because I was duped into buying
> a sample of
> >> his ersatz Plymouth. At the time, I had just gotten a job as collections
> >> curator of a small Earth and Space museum. I was very excited to see the
> >> Plymouth meteorite offered in an ad on the Meteorite List, as the town is
> >> just down the road from us and my uncle and I had spent considerable time
> >> researching and searching for the supposed lost main mass.
> (Turned out to be
> >> a wild goose chase). Since Bob seemed to be a list member in
> good standing
> >> I figured he could be trusted. If I had known enough to search
> the archives,
> >> I would have seen that he is a con man. To make a long story short, Bob's
> >> Plymouth was as phony as a 3 dollar bill. He told me it was
> etched before I
> >> bought it, (it wasn't). He promised he would return my money as he stated
> >> in the auction, (he didn't). I've asked him numerous times for my money
> >> back and got nothing but a run around. This guy is a con artist
> and I must
> >> admit he runs a good scam that has been very profitable for him. He's
> >> giving the industry a bad name and should be flamed every time
> he comes out
> >> of hiding and has the audacity to come back and post on the list. I would
> >> like to warn all newbies: Do not deal with this guy! If you do, you will
> >> regret it in the long run.
> >> Phil Whitmer
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John Gwilliam

Too many people were born on third base
and go through life thinking they hit a triple.
Received on Sun 14 Dec 2008 12:32:00 PM PST