[meteorite-list] AD - Crusted Zagami, L3 Conglomerate

From: al mitterling <almitt_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:26:05 -0500
Message-ID: <F4B9450F403041269FD51478542C82EC_at_StarmanPC>

Greetings,

Since bob has sent this to the list, I will reply. One item you have
misrepresented is Plymouth, Indiana. The buyer of that has contacted you
many times trying to get their money back and has never had any success and
he has tried hard. This buyer contacted me to thank me for my post and tell
me about his fruitless efforts with you. There have been questions about a
great number of your other items and the pedigree. Some of which you said
you purchased as an exchange from a university but they say they never had
contact with you.

Your criminal behavior is a problem for the whole collecting and selling
meteorite community. If you could offer up proof where your items of
question came from then it might give you some of your reputation back.
However in your email you mention that you don't have to let anyone know
where you get your items from. To me, that tells a lot about you.
Serious problems like this need to be brought out in the open and people
warned.

I agree with Dave Gheesling, Art, please remove the trash from the list.

--AL Mitterling



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "al mitterling" <almitt at kconline.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Crusted Zagami, L3 Conglomerate
>
>
>> Greetings List Members,
>>
>> It seems that a certain member in bad standing that continues to want to
>> advertise here who has cheated a number of unsuspecting members by both
>> not returning money to them after promising to do so and also
>> misrepresenting meteorite types as something rare when they are not. A
>> number of these victims wrote to me to thank me for posting my first
>> email message about him.
>>
>> Here are a few of the list archives indicating there are serious problems
>> with this creep. You can also go here to see for your self a number of
>> the problems that have been posted over the list for a number of years.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/custom?q=bob+evans&domains=six.pairlist.net&sitesearch=six.pairlist.net&sitesearch=&sa=Search+the+Archives
>>
>> I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a
>> $125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my
>> money back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email
>> and phone call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago
>> and noticed that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long
>> ago, yet he cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me?
>> Never again! I warn everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans.
>> His unprofessionalism is a joke.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> Well, Bob Evans just called me after reading my email to the list and he
>> was pissed-off as I had expected he would be.. nearly shouting at me
>> through the phone line. It doesn't look like I wil be getting "a penny
>> back" from him, so it looks like I'll have to use alternate routes to get
>> my money back. Sorry to everyone else who has to read this, but his
>> reaction to the situation is unacceptable. By the way Bob....I'm 22 years
>> old, not 15 as you had asked me during our brief phone altercation this
>> evening. See you in Tucson next year... I'm sure everyone will be giving
>> you a warm welcome.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> Bob Evans its another Cosmicvisitors alias Brad Sampson...sent money no
>> material, useless excuses aside the mailbox not go etc.....
>>
>> Mauro Daniel
>>
>> McCartney and List,
>> Doesn`t a theft of goods totaling a sum of 4,000+$ constitute a Felony in
>> Texas?
>> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061122154905AAnQ0ts
>> Thank you McCartney for your post to the list.
>> Sincerely, Dirk...Tokyo
>>
>> mccartney <mccartney at blackbearddata.com> wrote:
>> As a member of IMCA, I feel it my duty to warn other meteorite buffs to
>> avoid entanglements from questionable persons.
>>
>> On June 24, 2006 I posted to the list as a courtesy that I had been the
>> victim of a fraudulent trade with Bob Evans. This is the rest of the
>> story...
>>
>> After a year of trying to resolve the issue, it took me many more months
>> to conclude that he just wasn't going to respond.
>>
>> I sent emails, Ebay emails, registered letters and confirmed delivery
>> letters, with no response from Mr. Evans. He had my piece and he wasn't
>> going to finish the trade.
>>
>> I sued Bob Evans in Williamson County, Texas Court. It went to court on
>> October 19, 2006. Small CLaims suit #060094. He apparently tried to avoid
>> being served his lawsuit by the Will County Sheriff, but they served him
>> successfully. He did not respond to the suit, nor did he show in court.
>>
>> He lost by default and now has a judgment of $4,800 against him. He now
>> joins Mr. Casper in the hall of Shame.
>>
>> Its my character flaw to be an overyly trusting guy. I have traded with
>> people from South Africa to West Texas, Poland to Alaska. Never had a
>> problem. On the whole the average meteorite fan is a fair, wholesome,
>> science loving, respectable person. I encourage all of you to trade with
>> your peers on this list, but do a little homework on your partner first
>> to weed out the Caspers and Bob Evans's.
>>
>> Last word, the meteorite community is a small sand box - Remember to play
>> nice.
>>
>> -mt
>> IMCA 2760
>>
>> Yes, there was a lawsuit against Bob Evans brought by me. It was in
>>> regards to a trade that was partially done, where I sent material and
>>> only
>>
>>> received a partial trade, then Evans went quiet. No contact for many
>>> months. Eventually, I posted about it and received many replies that he
>>> has done this before. His modus operandi is usually to go quiet and not
>>> communicate. Which is what he's doing now. He did not show in court, I
>>> received a default judgment by the judge.
>>
>>> Evans did not appeal and a judgment was issued. I spent the money to
>>> have the judgment filed in Illinois and a lien filed against his house.
>>> At this time he can not purchase or sell, or inherit real property until
>>> the judgment is paid. It is collecting 8% interest at this time.
>>
>>> If I recall my contract law correctly, selling NWA junk as Zulu Queen
>>> would be 'Misrepresentation' as well as Unjust Enrichment. Selling Zulu
>>> Queen that he didn't know was NWA junk is simply 'Mutual
>>> Misunderstanding'. Good luck in proving he had prior knowledge it was
>>> NWA junk.
>>
>>> This is a small sandbox we play in. Play nice. McCartney Taylor
>>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> This is a public warning to Bob Evans to stop using the NWA 1110 and NWA
>> 1877 designations and meteoritelab descriptions. I filed a blanket
>> complaint claim with ebay and found out that it is considered fraudulent
>> to
>> use lab numbers that do not apply to your samples. It is also against the
>> law to steal copyrighted descriptions. It took me weeks to explain to
>> ebay
>> what is involved with getting numbers assigned to NWA meteorites. I will
>> start pulling the trigger soon on this kind of fraud starting with Bob
>> Evans. If ebay gets too many complaints the meteorite subsection might be
>> reconsidered (eliminated). That is why I am posting this message publicly
>> to avoid continued contact with ebay. Here are two of the many fraudulent
>> auctions Bob Evans is involved in:
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2287562058&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
>>
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2287562068&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
>>
>> Consider this warning to edit your numbers and descriptions to reflect
>> the
>> truth or I will report this fraud to ebay when I return tomorrow. My
>> attorney gave me the green light to start pursuing these cases and I will
>> exercise my options.
>>
>> Wishing everybody else the best,
>>
>> Greetings List,
>>
>> I could go on and on and post dozens if not more posts on people having
>> trouble with this thief but it would be counterproductive to our
>> discussion here. I feel I have done my part to warn people of this creep
>> and if you don't take the advise of this email and the emails of others
>> who have, had trouble with this criminal then we'll await to see your
>> post on the trouble you are having by thinking this is some kind of a
>> joke. Best wishes to all!
>>
>> --AL Mitterling
>>
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