[meteorite-list] pronouncing "Ensisheim"

From: Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr <Zelimir.Gabelica_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:05:34 +0200
Message-ID: <20080425230534.zgj1efb1kee8kg4o_at_w3mail.univ-mulhouse.fr>

> Hi Anne, Larry, all
>
> I'll try to help in pronouncing "Ensisheim".
>
> As you said, Anne, Alsace (Ensisheim) changed nationality many times
> during the modern era (for details, I urge you to read and re-read
> the nice book of Philippe Thomas and Lea Dejouy "Histoire de
> M?t?orites", part 1: "Ensisheim" (2005, 184 pp, euro 26.40,
> discounted on "Meteoritica" web site).
>
> Basically, people here still use to speak "Alsacian" (which is
> considered as a language, thus more than a dialect). It is close to
> German (or Swiss German) and the pronounciation of "Ensisheim" is the
> same in both languages, something as "Enn-Siss-Haym".
> But the Alsace region is now in France where French is the only
> official language.
> French rather pronounce "Enn-Siss-Heym" (close but different at the end).
>
> I'll be glad to read how it is actually pronounced in other foreign
> languages (Dirk ?)
>
> This being, if I can help anybody in trying to "write" how to pronounce
> other names of French meteorites, I can try.
> Just ask.
> The weirdest name to pronounce correctly in English seems to be "Orgueil".
> I even can't find how to write the end part, as this is the tricky one
> (but I can consult experts in writing phonetic pronounciations).
> I am however voulonteering to give particular pronounciation lessons
> next June during the Ensisheim show (for which I just sent you many
> details earlier today).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Zelimir
>
>
>
> A 16:08 24/04/2008 -0400, Impactika at aol.com a ?crit :
>> Hello Larry and List,
>>
>> Obviously, you are talking about the Ensisheim Show, and I pronince
>> the name
>> the way that looks most likely to me, something like En-zi-sheim. But mybe
>> you should ask the local people since yes, the area has changed nationality
>> repeatedly thru the centuries. Maybe Zelimir can help.
>>
>> But I can help you with Orgueil, or L'Aigle.
>> And many names are easy to pronounce if you break them down,
>> something like:
>> Mill-bill-hill-lie.or Ta-fa-ssa-sset.
>> Nothing to it!!!
>>
>> BTW: Anyone of you in the Denver area this weekend? we have a nice,
>> relatively important Show at the Holiday Inn. Go here for details:
>> _http://www.mzexpos.com/colorado_spring.htm_
>> (http://www.mzexpos.com/colorado_spring.htm)
>>
>> See you there, maybe.
>>
>> Anne M. Black
>> _www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.IMPACTIKA.com)
>> _IMPACTIKA at aol.com_ (mailto:IMPACTIKA at aol.com)
>> Vice-President of IMCA Inc.
>> _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 4/23/2008 9:38:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
>> lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu writes:
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Sounds like a new Meteorite magazine column to me!
>>
>> Could be done alphabetically or by country (would need volunteers from the
>> countries involved [regional for USA?] or people who speak the language).
>>
>> Anyone want to volunteer to do it/oversee it? Start it off? Anyone, anyone?
>>
>> By the way, off line I got this suggestion (sort of) from Anne Black and
>> my question to her is:
>>
>> There is a Gem and Mineral show the occurs every year during the summer,
>> in Eastern France, where a meteorite was seen to fall (over 500 years
>> ago). How is it pronounced? I bring this up since someone today mentioned
>> asking Anne how to pronounce French meteorites and, in Anne's room at the
>> Tucson show, I heard two different pronunciations of this show/meteorite
>> from two people who spoke with French accents! Yes Anne, you still have an
>> accent!
>>
>> In this case, does it have to do with the fact that it is near a
>> German-speaking country?
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> Co-Editor, Meteorite magazine
>>
>>
>>
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> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
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