[meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi & Meteorite Offers from Russia

From: Pat Brown <radio_ranch_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <561800.6575.qm_at_web51301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

I don't have a copy of Bartlett's' Famous Quotations
here at work, but from memory, P.T. Barnum did not say
that there is a sucker born every minute. He said that
"no one ever went broke underestimating the
intelligence of the American public".
--- "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Hi, Mike, List,
>
> I have to quarrel with your arithmetic, Mike.
> A sucker a day is only 365 new suckers a year,
> and the population of suckers is far too great to
> have been created at that rate.
> The great Phineas T. Barnum is the source
> of that quote, and I believe that he said, "There's
> a sucker born every minute," Even that is only
> 525,960 new suckers a year, which sounds a
> little on the shy side to me. But I'll take old
> Phineas' word for it; he knew his suckers.
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> <mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it>; "Notkin"
> <geoking at notkin.net>; "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi &
> Meteorite Offers from Russia
>
>
> A sucker is born every day.
> Michael Farmer
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- M come Meteorite Meteorites
> <mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it> wrote:
>
> > I doubt a nigerian scam continue to send you
> emails
> > with photos etc....and is not real this person ask
> > immediatly $800 of contract, I have sent 100 euro
> > and
> > now I want seen what arrive
> >
> > Matteo
> >
> > --- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> ha
> > scritto:
> >
> > > Geoff, this is another form of Nigerian scam.
> They
> > > are
> > > now getting on ebay, finding items that sell,
> > > learning
> > > about them, then ripping people off who are
> > gullible
> > > enough to send money to people they do not know.
> > > This
> > > has been on the news lately.
> > > These guys plan to take your $800.00 then you
> will
> > > never hear from them again. The same people are
> > > likely
> > > sending the same emails to people for coins,
> > > fossils,
> > > and anything else of value from Russia that
> people
> > > might actually want to buy.
> > > Buy from people you know, or suffer the
> > > consequences.
> > > Michael Farmer
> > > --- Notkin <geoking at notkin.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Listees:
> > > >
> > > > Greetings all.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you to those of you who replied off-List
> > to
> > > my
> > > > post inquiring
> > > > about a Mr. Kramskoi.
> > > >
> > > > The following information may be of interest
> to
> > to
> > > > any List members who
> > > > have received a recent offer from Russia about
> > > > meteorites for sale:
> > > >
> > > > 1) A significant number meteorite dealers and
> > > > collectors, around the
> > > > world, have been contacted by email by a
> person
> > > > representing himself as
> > > > Mr. Aleksandr Kramskoi supposedly of Kramskoi
> > Law
> > > > Firm in Moscow. He
> > > > states he is selling meteorite specimens in
> > order
> > > to
> > > > raise funds for
> > > > the Kanatnaya Doroga Charity Foundation
> > > (supposedly
> > > > an orphanage) in
> > > > Russia.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Mr. Kramskoi has offered for sale Lunar
> > > specimens
> > > > from the Russian
> > > > Luna missions, and some very attractive
> > > > Sikhote-Alins, apparently from
> > > > an old collection. He has emailed photos of
> > these
> > > > specimens to numerous
> > > > people. Mr. Kramskoi offered to send me 4.5 kg
> > of
> > > > Sikhote-Alins, "so
> > > > you can inspect it carefully and give a fair
> > price
> > > > for these items."
> > > > Once I agreed to receive the specimens for
> > > > inspection, he then emailed
> > > > me an elaborate contract and asked for $800 in
> > > > advance as a "contract
> > > > fee."
> > > >
> > > > 3) Mr. Kramskoi stated that after receiving
> the
> > > $800
> > > > from me, he would
> > > > ship the Sikhote-Alins by UPS or Fedex and
> that
> > > upon
> > > > receipt I would
> > > > have 180 days to pay the balance. I found the
> > > length
> > > > of time allowed
> > > > for payment to be suspicious.
> > > >
> > > > 4) A well-respected List member, and
> > professional
> > > > colleague of mine in
> > > > Europe, was offered the same pieces and the
> same
> > > > contract, at the same
> > > > time, though for a different price.
> > > >
> > > > 5) My colleague has a reliable friend in
> Russia
> > > who
> > > > has established
> > > > that the address provided by Mr. Kramskoi for
> > his
> > > > law office does not
> > > > exist.
> > > >
> > > > 6) My colleague and I both declined to enter
> > into
> > > > any form of
> > > > transaction with Mr. Kramskoi, and I post this
> > > > information so anyone
> > > > else who is thinking of doing business with
> him
> > > will
> > > > be able to form
> > > > their own conclusions before sending any money
> > to
> > > > Russia.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone wanting more detailed information,
> please
> > > > contact me off-List. I
> > > > can tell you about another great offer I
> > received
> > > > from Nigeria : )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Geoff N.
> > > > www.aerolite.org
> > > >
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