[meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi & Meteorite Offers from Russia

From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:44:33 -0500
Message-ID: <03de01c76a4e$420314c0$ab7e4b44_at_ATARIENGINE>

Hi, Mike, List,

I have to quarrel with your arithmetic, Mike.
A sucker a day is only 365 new suckers a year,
and the population of suckers is far too great to
have been created at that rate.
    The great Phineas T. Barnum is the source
of that quote, and I believe that he said, "There's
a sucker born every minute," Even that is only
525,960 new suckers a year, which sounds a
little on the shy side to me. But I'll take old
Phineas' word for it; he knew his suckers.


Sterling K. Webb
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it>; "Notkin"
<geoking at notkin.net>; "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi & Meteorite Offers from Russia


A sucker is born every day.
Michael Farmer






-- M come Meteorite Meteorites
<mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it> wrote:

> I doubt a nigerian scam continue to send you emails
> with photos etc....and is not real this person ask
> immediatly $800 of contract, I have sent 100 euro
> and
> now I want seen what arrive
>
> Matteo
>
> --- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> ha
> scritto:
>
> > Geoff, this is another form of Nigerian scam. They
> > are
> > now getting on ebay, finding items that sell,
> > learning
> > about them, then ripping people off who are
> gullible
> > enough to send money to people they do not know.
> > This
> > has been on the news lately.
> > These guys plan to take your $800.00 then you will
> > never hear from them again. The same people are
> > likely
> > sending the same emails to people for coins,
> > fossils,
> > and anything else of value from Russia that people
> > might actually want to buy.
> > Buy from people you know, or suffer the
> > consequences.
> > Michael Farmer
> > --- Notkin <geoking at notkin.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Listees:
> > >
> > > Greetings all.
> > >
> > > Thank you to those of you who replied off-List
> to
> > my
> > > post inquiring
> > > about a Mr. Kramskoi.
> > >
> > > The following information may be of interest to
> to
> > > any List members who
> > > have received a recent offer from Russia about
> > > meteorites for sale:
> > >
> > > 1) A significant number meteorite dealers and
> > > collectors, around the
> > > world, have been contacted by email by a person
> > > representing himself as
> > > Mr. Aleksandr Kramskoi supposedly of Kramskoi
> Law
> > > Firm in Moscow. He
> > > states he is selling meteorite specimens in
> order
> > to
> > > raise funds for
> > > the Kanatnaya Doroga Charity Foundation
> > (supposedly
> > > an orphanage) in
> > > Russia.
> > >
> > > 2) Mr. Kramskoi has offered for sale Lunar
> > specimens
> > > from the Russian
> > > Luna missions, and some very attractive
> > > Sikhote-Alins, apparently from
> > > an old collection. He has emailed photos of
> these
> > > specimens to numerous
> > > people. Mr. Kramskoi offered to send me 4.5 kg
> of
> > > Sikhote-Alins, "so
> > > you can inspect it carefully and give a fair
> price
> > > for these items."
> > > Once I agreed to receive the specimens for
> > > inspection, he then emailed
> > > me an elaborate contract and asked for $800 in
> > > advance as a "contract
> > > fee."
> > >
> > > 3) Mr. Kramskoi stated that after receiving the
> > $800
> > > from me, he would
> > > ship the Sikhote-Alins by UPS or Fedex and that
> > upon
> > > receipt I would
> > > have 180 days to pay the balance. I found the
> > length
> > > of time allowed
> > > for payment to be suspicious.
> > >
> > > 4) A well-respected List member, and
> professional
> > > colleague of mine in
> > > Europe, was offered the same pieces and the same
> > > contract, at the same
> > > time, though for a different price.
> > >
> > > 5) My colleague has a reliable friend in Russia
> > who
> > > has established
> > > that the address provided by Mr. Kramskoi for
> his
> > > law office does not
> > > exist.
> > >
> > > 6) My colleague and I both declined to enter
> into
> > > any form of
> > > transaction with Mr. Kramskoi, and I post this
> > > information so anyone
> > > else who is thinking of doing business with him
> > will
> > > be able to form
> > > their own conclusions before sending any money
> to
> > > Russia.
> > >
> > > Anyone wanting more detailed information, please
> > > contact me off-List. I
> > > can tell you about another great offer I
> received
> > > from Nigeria : )
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Geoff N.
> > > www.aerolite.org
> > >
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