[meteorite-list] A friendly warning...

From: Thomas Webb <webbth1_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:56:37 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <192618.97832.qm_at_web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

List,
I believe Michael makes a timely shipment of
everything ordered and paid for. I've never had this
problem in the seven years I've been buying from him.
Problems with International shipments happen to
everyone occasionally.
Thomas

--- Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
wrote:

> >Its well know ordinary packs go
> >for the 70% lost.
>
> Then the problem has to be located in Italy,
> I had only 2 losses in 7 years from USA.
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> Im Auftrag von M come
> Meteorite Meteorites
> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 19:03
> An: michael cottingham; 'Jakub Radwan';
> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
>
> It is many strange speack of high shipping cost when
> I buy
> many minerals from USA - some its over 4 kg. - and I
> pay for
> all $55 for a unique ship and registered, or a
> normaly
> registered mail of at 200 grams I pay at $10 via
> USPS...for
> not speack of express courier type FedEx or UPS,
> this last I
> pay at $40 for big packs. Its well know ordinary
> packs go
> for the 70% lost.
>
> Matteo
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Da : "michael cottingham" <mikewren at gilanet.com>
> A : "'Jakub Radwan'" <jakub at meteorites.pl>,
> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> Data : Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:56:32 -0600
>
> > Jakub,
> >
> > When is the last time you emailed me? 5 or 6
> months ago?
> > Because this is the 1st time, since our
> transaction that I
> > have heard anything about this one.
> >
> > Back then I answered your emails. Back then I told
> you I
> > had shipped it and back then I communicated with
> you just
> > fine.
> >
> > NO. I don't answer every email on the same
> subject,
> > especially when overseas shipping can take time
> ... a long
> > time. I have had this problem before, and I
> believe
> > everyone finally did receive their item. Maybe, a
> year
> > later, but that was not MY FAULT!
> >
> > True Story: I sent out several thousands of
> dollars worth
> > of the Rare Fall, Weston... I sent it out Global
> Priority
> > Mail. It never showed up. I was surprised because
> I had
> > never lost a Global Priority before. I sent a
> > replacement.. Registered Mail, Thousands of
> dollars more
> > of Weston. IT NEVER Showed up. This was to
> Germany. The
> > buyer thought I was a thief. I thought the buyer a
> thief.
> > I began to slowly refund the money... I was pissed
> because
> > I thought I was scammed. About a year or more
> later, one
> > of the packages was found in the basement of the
> next door
> > neighbor. They found this package while cleaning
> their
> > basement. My buyer was not home when the package
> came, so
> > the postman gave it to the neighbor... and she
> finally
> > gave it to my client a year later! The second
> package is
> > still missing in Germany.
> >
> > In the 10 years I have been doing this... I have
> sent over
> > 20,000 packages. I have over 9,000 (NINE THOUSAND)
> > Positive feedbacks on Ebay, and that is just my
> ebay
> > business. I have sold thousands of meteorites to
> hundreds
> > of happy customers. I have refunded every purchase
> that
> > was lost in the mail or if the person was
> dissatisfied.
> >
> > Also, there is NO WAY to track your shipment
> outside the
> > USA. At that time I do not believe that service
> was
> > available on the way I sent it.
> >
> > ALSO, when you elect to play the "Customs Game",
> that is,
> > no or little value decalred on the item and you
> want to
> > insure it for the full amount, remember I told you
> I don't
> > do that. It is illegal. I did recommend that you
> insure
> > it, but that amount would be declared on the
> customs
> > invoice and you would have to pay your customs
> fee. If the
> > buyer elects to have NO VALUE placed on the item,
> as to
> > avoid custom fees, then they forfeit all rights to
> a
> > refund.
> >
> >
> > I have had maybe 25 lost packages, (In 10 years)
> and I
> > believe I have refunded or replaced the items in
> all of
> > these cases, unless there was some other
> agreement.
> >
> > In my experience, Italy is the worst place to send
> > anything to... Eastern Europe is second and
> Germany has
> > sometimes the worst delays.. (Due to Customs).
> This
> > statement is not intended to be slander or to be
> mean, but
> > some countries have a terrible postal system, with
> thieves
> > , delays, and other problems...
> >
> > I am in the business to sell meteorites... not
> play games.
> > CUSTOMER> POSTAL SERVICE>SELLER. The party in
> the middle
> > is sometimes to blame!
> >
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > Michael Cottingham
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> >
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Jakub Radwan
> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:35 AM
> > To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> >
> > Dear Listees,
> >
> > As I have tried all other ways to work things out,
> I
> > believe it is high time I sent a friendly
> warning.
> >
> > Almost 7 months ago, I purchased a specimen of
> Campo Del
> > Cielo from Michael Cottingham. As a Christmas
> bonus
> > Michael offered a 50% discount and agreed to
> cover
> > freight charges. What was my surprise when it
> turned out
> > that the package had been sent via USPS's Global
> Economy
> > Parcel service (the worst ground shipping option
> out
> > there with estimated delivery time of 4-6 weeks).
> > Needless to say the parcel has never made it, but
> that is
> > not why I am making this public. The real reason
> is
> > Michael's lack of respect for his customers.
> >
> > Not only has he failed to provide me with a
> shipping
> > confirmation as a proof that the package has
> actually
> > been sent (with all due respect, why should I
> trust him?)
> > , he is also not even so kind as to reply to my
> e-mails.
> > Of course, I am aware there is no way to get my
> money
> > back. I just want to warn you. Please think twice
> before
> > you order anything from the Michael Cottingham
> Meteorite
> > Collection.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards from Poland,
> >
> > Jakub Radwan
> > Polish Meteoritical Society
> >
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Received on Sat 23 Jun 2007 05:56:37 PM PDT