[meteorite-list] D. New's old meteorite lists

From: Alexander Seidel <gsac_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:35:07 +0100
Message-ID: <20070108193507.79320_at_gmx.net>

> Definitely I will contact David for his old lists.
> Although the list is presently quite silent I believe many of us are more
> than interested in reading such lists (again).


I also believe or at least hope, that it?s not boring today.
This is "news from the past", folks! :-)

 
> We must now start to think on how we should organize to get such lists
> officialized, perhaps without boring too much David, although I am pretty
> sure he is willing to help on his side.


What (..I think) would basically be needed from his side is nothing but an OKAY for publication, and may be some old copies, if they are not to found elsewhere. All the other workload really should not be imposed on him, and could be done by some expert(s) in the field of publication. [Mark? :-)]

 
> Btw. I had my stop-over in Anacortes (2 days) on my way to Ketchikan
> (Alaska). Seattle airport was on the way. It was in mid May (the best
> weather period to collect ...minerals, in South West Alaska). I remember
> having purchased that day from David the main mass of "Hughes 003" (558.6
> grams individual).


Got my first pallasite from him on the occasion of my visit, a 46 g Esquel slice still in the collection (...and still stable, as Esquel uses to be!). And another real nice Holbrook half stone, though smaller than the one I purchased from you, Zelimir, about a decade later..:-)


Have a good night,
Alex
Berlin/Germany


> A 19:58 08/01/2007 +0100, Alexander Seidel a ?crit :
> > > Hi Alex, all,
> >
> >
> >Bonsoir Zelimir,
> >
> >
> > > Alex, it seems we were almost at the same place at the same time in
> the
> > > recent past when we both started collecting meteorites (I did in 1992
> > > thanks to David's wise advice, probably you earlier ?).
> >
> >
> >A long story to tell, way toooooooo long for this spot - but yes, I also
> >basically (re-)started in 1992, when I also subscribed to be a member of
> >the Meteoritical Society.
> >
> >
> > > I visited him in Anacortes in 1992 and 1995, at least for meteorites
> >
> >
> >So we almost could have met there in 1992 - I visited him while passing
> >the the state of Washington in late September. I had gifted a three weeks
> >rental car trip through the Western US and Canada to myself on the
> >occasion of my 40th birthday... :-)
> >
> >
> > > Your idea to try to find out and gather David's old lists describing
> > > meteorites and their prices is indeed brillant!
> > > Well, the idea is:
> > > Shall I ask...David ?
> >
> >
> >YES, please - I would strongly suggest you do just that! Say hello from
> >me, and if you would like, please forward my initial post to the list and
> >may be this one!
> >
> >
> > > Let me reassure you, Margaret and David are doing very well and are in
> > > excellent shape! I got news from them...some minutes ago.
> >
> >
> >Glad to hear the good news!
> >
> >
> > > I can at least ask hiw whether he still has copies of his past lists
> in
> > > his files and whether he can agree we use these lists for the best of
> the
> > > reasons: preserve a specific cultural heritage.
> >
> >
> >That?s exactly what I meant!
> >
> >
> > > Alex, we have much to talk about this passionate past times, in the
> 2007
> > > Ensisheim session, if you can make it...
> >
> >
> >I have been there exactly every second year after it?s inauguration in
> the
> >late Ninetees. Last time I could attend was 2005, so this year should be
> a
> >definite date for me again! Would love to have a beer and wine with you,
> >Zelimir. (Oh btw, I have that 70+ grams half Holbrook stone from you from
> >one of the earlier Ensisheim show, a David New specimen, and already
> >talked to you about it way back then.... :-)).
> >
> >PS: this sounds to be a private mail, sorry, but it is mainly addressed
> to
> >Zelimir?s proposal of contacting David New for his old lists, which
> makes
> >it a public mail again, right?
> >
> >Best wishes,
> >Alex
> >Berlin/Germany
> >
> >
> >
> > > A 19:03 08/01/2007 +0100, Alexander Seidel a ?crit :
> > > >I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those
> price
> > > >lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail -
> which
> > > >happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in
> my
> > > >old files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there
> has a
> > > >more complete collection of the lists, with David?s very unique
> > > >description of his offered pieces, "superb" always being top choice!
> :-)
> > > >Bernd, I know you have many, if not all of these in your archives, at
> > > >least for as long as you collect meteorites... These lists, if they
> were
> > > >scanned and somehow made available via the net, would be a great show
> > > >example of how things were in the later second half of the last
> century -
> > > >I would even call it sort of "cultural heritage" with respect to the
> > > >meteorite business.
> > > >
> > > >I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow
> > > >disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent
> times
> > > >on a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health
> > > >together with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited
> him
> > > >at his home in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great
> guy!
> > > PS:
> > > >btw he was the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider
> > > >public, and I am proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone
> through
> > > >his hands.
> > > >
> > > >Alex
> > > >Berlin/Germany
> > > >
> > > >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > >Datum: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:41:13 +0100
> > > >Von: Zelimir Gabelica <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> > > >An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Bernd, Gary, list
> > > > >
> > > > > I completely agree with Bernd regarding the aesthetics of
> Forestburg
> > > (b).
> > > > > I was lucky enough to acquire a 315 g complete slice in the old
> good
> > > times
> > > > > (1995) when such beauties were available here and there and their
> gram
> > > > > prices quite affordable. David New was, at that time, such a
> person,
> > > one
> > > > > of
> > > > > the most expertized meteorite dealers, a man full of knowledge,
> > > fairness,
> > > > > kindness and respect towards collectors. Bernd should not
> contradict
> > > me.
> > > > > Regarding that slice of Forestburg (b), David told me one day
> > > something
> > > > > like "Zelimir, if you are a true collector, you must take that
> one".
> > > It
> > > > > was
> > > > > not listed for sale but rather a specific offer from David for a
> > > > > beginner-collector and friend. And, believe me, he did not push
> the
> > > sale
> > > > > for some profit as David first wanted our satisfaction.
> > > > > In this case, mine was reached beyond all my expectations and I
> agreed
> > > to
> > > > > get it without even having a preliminary idea of its aspect,
> except a
> > > > > short
> > > > > description, because I just trusted my friend.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no pictures on hand to show you but here is a summary of
> its
> > > > > characteristics.
> > > > > It is a 150 x 70 mm full slice, 15 mm thick. Both sides are neatly
> > > > > polished
> > > > > and show a black pattern, full of metal (Fe-Ni) spots, grains and
> > > islets,
> > > > > along with some schreibersite patches. It nicely contrasts with
> the
> > > thick
> > > > > red-brown crust well visible all around and carrying a painted
> number
> > > "M
> > > > > 148.1b" (Monnig collection at TCU).
> > > > > I don't remember having noticed any greenish inclusion (as, e.g.,
> in
> > > > > "Belle
> > > > > Plaine" or "Lahoma", to cite 2 other meteorites that involve such
> > > > > inclusions ) but will check this later for sure.
> > > > > Needless to say this slice remains as one of my collection master
> > > pieces.
> > > > >
> > > > > The conclusion of this example is that sometimes one does not
> > > necessarily
> > > > > need some rare meteorite type to appreciate an odd pattern and
> that
> > > > > sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary
> fairy-like
> > > > > picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their
> > > acquisition
> > > > > of Forestburg (b).
> > > > > The other, and perhaps even more rewarding conclusion is that you
> can
> > > > > sometimes get the "best of the best" by just trusting a genuine
> friend
> > > and
> > > > > his expertise, if you are lucky enough to know such a person. And
> I am
> > > > > sure
> > > > > such people are certainly still numerous around us, within our
> > > > > list....they
> > > > > should recognize themselves...
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > >
> > > > > Zelimir
> > > > >
> > >
> > > Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> > > Universit? de Haute Alsace
> > > ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
> > > 3, Rue A. Werner,
> > > F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
> > > Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
> > > Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
> > >
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>
> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> Universit? de Haute Alsace
> ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
> 3, Rue A. Werner,
> F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
> Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
> Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
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