[meteorite-list] D. New's old meteorite lists

From: Zelimir Gabelica <Zelimir.Gabelica_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:19:00 +0100
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20070108200139.026ddf10_at_pop.univ-mulhouse.fr>

Alex,

Definitely I will contact David for his old lists.
Although the list is presently quite silent I believe many of us are more
than interested in reading such lists (again).

My own copies are in my archives home (Belgium) somewhere hidden in the old
folders. I'll be glad to browse again through, next week.

I just must leave the office now but will contact David tomorrow for sure
and he should read me while having his early morning coffee. (We may be
here 8 hours ahead). I just finished my contact with him right now by saying:
"I'll contact you again soon, for other subjects to debate"...
  I'll include in my mail copies of your posts, for sure.

We must now start to think on how we should organize to get such lists
officialized, perhaps without boring too much David, although I am pretty
sure he is willing to help on his side.

Btw. I had my stop-over in Anacortes (2 days) on my way to Ketchikan
(Alaska). Seattle airport was on the way. It was in mid May (the best
weather period to collect ...minerals, in South West Alaska). I remember
having purchased that day from David the main mass of "Hughes 003" (558.6
grams individual). Sorry if you missed it by some 4 months....Good old
somewhat nostalgic days...

Best,

Zelimir


A 19:58 08/01/2007 +0100, Alexander Seidel a ?crit :
> > Hi Alex, all,
>
>
>Bonsoir Zelimir,
>
>
> > Alex, it seems we were almost at the same place at the same time in the
> > recent past when we both started collecting meteorites (I did in 1992
> > thanks to David's wise advice, probably you earlier ?).
>
>
>A long story to tell, way toooooooo long for this spot - but yes, I also
>basically (re-)started in 1992, when I also subscribed to be a member of
>the Meteoritical Society.
>
>
> > I visited him in Anacortes in 1992 and 1995, at least for meteorites
>
>
>So we almost could have met there in 1992 - I visited him while passing
>the the state of Washington in late September. I had gifted a three weeks
>rental car trip through the Western US and Canada to myself on the
>occasion of my 40th birthday... :-)
>
>
> > Your idea to try to find out and gather David's old lists describing
> > meteorites and their prices is indeed brillant!
> > Well, the idea is:
> > Shall I ask...David ?
>
>
>YES, please - I would strongly suggest you do just that! Say hello from
>me, and if you would like, please forward my initial post to the list and
>may be this one!
>
>
> > Let me reassure you, Margaret and David are doing very well and are in
> > excellent shape! I got news from them...some minutes ago.
>
>
>Glad to hear the good news!
>
>
> > I can at least ask hiw whether he still has copies of his past lists in
> > his files and whether he can agree we use these lists for the best of the
> > reasons: preserve a specific cultural heritage.
>
>
>That?s exactly what I meant!
>
>
> > Alex, we have much to talk about this passionate past times, in the 2007
> > Ensisheim session, if you can make it...
>
>
>I have been there exactly every second year after it?s inauguration in the
>late Ninetees. Last time I could attend was 2005, so this year should be a
>definite date for me again! Would love to have a beer and wine with you,
>Zelimir. (Oh btw, I have that 70+ grams half Holbrook stone from you from
>one of the earlier Ensisheim show, a David New specimen, and already
>talked to you about it way back then.... :-)).
>
>PS: this sounds to be a private mail, sorry, but it is mainly addressed to
>Zelimir?s proposal of contacting David New for his old lists, which makes
>it a public mail again, right?
>
>Best wishes,
>Alex
>Berlin/Germany
>
>
>
> > A 19:03 08/01/2007 +0100, Alexander Seidel a ?crit :
> > >I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price
> > >lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which
> > >happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my
> > >old files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a
> > >more complete collection of the lists, with David?s very unique
> > >description of his offered pieces, "superb" always being top choice! :-)
> > >Bernd, I know you have many, if not all of these in your archives, at
> > >least for as long as you collect meteorites... These lists, if they were
> > >scanned and somehow made available via the net, would be a great show
> > >example of how things were in the later second half of the last century -
> > >I would even call it sort of "cultural heritage" with respect to the
> > >meteorite business.
> > >
> > >I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow
> > >disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times
> > >on a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health
> > >together with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him
> > >at his home in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy!
> > PS:
> > >btw he was the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider
> > >public, and I am proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone through
> > >his hands.
> > >
> > >Alex
> > >Berlin/Germany
> > >
> > >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > >Datum: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:41:13 +0100
> > >Von: Zelimir Gabelica <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> > >An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite
> > >
> > > > Hello Bernd, Gary, list
> > > >
> > > > I completely agree with Bernd regarding the aesthetics of Forestburg
> > (b).
> > > > I was lucky enough to acquire a 315 g complete slice in the old good
> > times
> > > > (1995) when such beauties were available here and there and their gram
> > > > prices quite affordable. David New was, at that time, such a person,
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > the most expertized meteorite dealers, a man full of knowledge,
> > fairness,
> > > > kindness and respect towards collectors. Bernd should not contradict
> > me.
> > > > Regarding that slice of Forestburg (b), David told me one day
> > something
> > > > like "Zelimir, if you are a true collector, you must take that one".
> > It
> > > > was
> > > > not listed for sale but rather a specific offer from David for a
> > > > beginner-collector and friend. And, believe me, he did not push the
> > sale
> > > > for some profit as David first wanted our satisfaction.
> > > > In this case, mine was reached beyond all my expectations and I agreed
> > to
> > > > get it without even having a preliminary idea of its aspect, except a
> > > > short
> > > > description, because I just trusted my friend.
> > > >
> > > > I have no pictures on hand to show you but here is a summary of its
> > > > characteristics.
> > > > It is a 150 x 70 mm full slice, 15 mm thick. Both sides are neatly
> > > > polished
> > > > and show a black pattern, full of metal (Fe-Ni) spots, grains and
> > islets,
> > > > along with some schreibersite patches. It nicely contrasts with the
> > thick
> > > > red-brown crust well visible all around and carrying a painted number
> > "M
> > > > 148.1b" (Monnig collection at TCU).
> > > > I don't remember having noticed any greenish inclusion (as, e.g., in
> > > > "Belle
> > > > Plaine" or "Lahoma", to cite 2 other meteorites that involve such
> > > > inclusions ) but will check this later for sure.
> > > > Needless to say this slice remains as one of my collection master
> > pieces.
> > > >
> > > > The conclusion of this example is that sometimes one does not
> > necessarily
> > > > need some rare meteorite type to appreciate an odd pattern and that
> > > > sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like
> > > > picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their
> > acquisition
> > > > of Forestburg (b).
> > > > The other, and perhaps even more rewarding conclusion is that you can
> > > > sometimes get the "best of the best" by just trusting a genuine friend
> > and
> > > > his expertise, if you are lucky enough to know such a person. And I am
> > > > sure
> > > > such people are certainly still numerous around us, within our
> > > > list....they
> > > > should recognize themselves...
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > >
> > > > Zelimir
> > > >
> >
> > Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> > Universit? de Haute Alsace
> > ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
> > 3, Rue A. Werner,
> > F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
> > Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
> > Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
> >
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Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Universit? de Haute Alsace
ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
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