[meteorite-list] D. New's old meteorite lists

From: Alexander Seidel <gsac_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:58:24 +0100
Message-ID: <20070108185824.164410_at_gmx.net>

> Hi Alex, all,


Bonsoir Zelimir,


> Alex, it seems we were almost at the same place at the same time in the
> recent past when we both started collecting meteorites (I did in 1992
> thanks to David's wise advice, probably you earlier ?).


A long story to tell, way toooooooo long for this spot - but yes, I also basically (re-)started in 1992, when I also subscribed to be a member of the Meteoritical Society.


> I visited him in Anacortes in 1992 and 1995, at least for meteorites


So we almost could have met there in 1992 - I visited him while passing the the state of Washington in late September. I had gifted a three weeks rental car trip through the Western US and Canada to myself on the occasion of my 40th birthday... :-)
 

> Your idea to try to find out and gather David's old lists describing
> meteorites and their prices is indeed brillant!
> Well, the idea is:
> Shall I ask...David ?


YES, please - I would strongly suggest you do just that! Say hello from me, and if you would like, please forward my initial post to the list and may be this one!


> Let me reassure you, Margaret and David are doing very well and are in
> excellent shape! I got news from them...some minutes ago.


Glad to hear the good news!


> I can at least ask hiw whether he still has copies of his past lists in
> his files and whether he can agree we use these lists for the best of the
> reasons: preserve a specific cultural heritage.


That?s exactly what I meant!

 
> Alex, we have much to talk about this passionate past times, in the 2007
> Ensisheim session, if you can make it...


I have been there exactly every second year after it?s inauguration in the late Ninetees. Last time I could attend was 2005, so this year should be a definite date for me again! Would love to have a beer and wine with you, Zelimir. (Oh btw, I have that 70+ grams half Holbrook stone from you from one of the earlier Ensisheim show, a David New specimen, and already talked to you about it way back then.... :-)).

PS: this sounds to be a private mail, sorry, but it is mainly addressed to Zelimir?s proposal of contacting David New for his old lists, which makes it a public mail again, right?

Best wishes,
Alex
Berlin/Germany



> A 19:03 08/01/2007 +0100, Alexander Seidel a ?crit :
> >I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price
> >lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which
> >happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my
> >old files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a
> >more complete collection of the lists, with David?s very unique
> >description of his offered pieces, "superb" always being top choice! :-)
> >Bernd, I know you have many, if not all of these in your archives, at
> >least for as long as you collect meteorites... These lists, if they were
> >scanned and somehow made available via the net, would be a great show
> >example of how things were in the later second half of the last century -
> >I would even call it sort of "cultural heritage" with respect to the
> >meteorite business.
> >
> >I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow
> >disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times
> >on a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health
> >together with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him
> >at his home in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy!
> PS:
> >btw he was the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider
> >public, and I am proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone through
> >his hands.
> >
> >Alex
> >Berlin/Germany
> >
> >-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >Datum: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:41:13 +0100
> >Von: Zelimir Gabelica <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> >An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite
> >
> > > Hello Bernd, Gary, list
> > >
> > > I completely agree with Bernd regarding the aesthetics of Forestburg
> (b).
> > > I was lucky enough to acquire a 315 g complete slice in the old good
> times
> > > (1995) when such beauties were available here and there and their gram
> > > prices quite affordable. David New was, at that time, such a person,
> one
> > > of
> > > the most expertized meteorite dealers, a man full of knowledge,
> fairness,
> > > kindness and respect towards collectors. Bernd should not contradict
> me.
> > > Regarding that slice of Forestburg (b), David told me one day
> something
> > > like "Zelimir, if you are a true collector, you must take that one".
> It
> > > was
> > > not listed for sale but rather a specific offer from David for a
> > > beginner-collector and friend. And, believe me, he did not push the
> sale
> > > for some profit as David first wanted our satisfaction.
> > > In this case, mine was reached beyond all my expectations and I agreed
> to
> > > get it without even having a preliminary idea of its aspect, except a
> > > short
> > > description, because I just trusted my friend.
> > >
> > > I have no pictures on hand to show you but here is a summary of its
> > > characteristics.
> > > It is a 150 x 70 mm full slice, 15 mm thick. Both sides are neatly
> > > polished
> > > and show a black pattern, full of metal (Fe-Ni) spots, grains and
> islets,
> > > along with some schreibersite patches. It nicely contrasts with the
> thick
> > > red-brown crust well visible all around and carrying a painted number
> "M
> > > 148.1b" (Monnig collection at TCU).
> > > I don't remember having noticed any greenish inclusion (as, e.g., in
> > > "Belle
> > > Plaine" or "Lahoma", to cite 2 other meteorites that involve such
> > > inclusions ) but will check this later for sure.
> > > Needless to say this slice remains as one of my collection master
> pieces.
> > >
> > > The conclusion of this example is that sometimes one does not
> necessarily
> > > need some rare meteorite type to appreciate an odd pattern and that
> > > sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like
> > > picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their
> acquisition
> > > of Forestburg (b).
> > > The other, and perhaps even more rewarding conclusion is that you can
> > > sometimes get the "best of the best" by just trusting a genuine friend
> and
> > > his expertise, if you are lucky enough to know such a person. And I am
> > > sure
> > > such people are certainly still numerous around us, within our
> > > list....they
> > > should recognize themselves...
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Zelimir
> > >
>
> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> Universit? de Haute Alsace
> ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
> 3, Rue A. Werner,
> F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
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