AW: [meteorite-list] advice...

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Nov 11 08:49:12 2006
Message-ID: <020701c70598$27c52d70$4f41fea9_at_name86d88d87e2>

Hi Bob,

read the back mails on the list, read about the total amounts of meteorites
in Antarctica, in Oman and from NWA. Read how many non-irons are there in
total and so on. Compare the amounts presented at the shows. Take a look on
the number of finds and tkws produced by other deserts than Sahara and Oman.
I'm sure you observed the prices too. Why it was possible to buy 1-2 years
ago Mars on ebay in small slices at 100-150$ and at dealers at 250$
everywhere and why the people are paying now without exception 270-300$ for
huge 10g slices on ebay and around 500$ for other desert Marses and Zagami
now, when it was for a dealer a real hard task to get rid of that stuff 2
years ago at half of that price? That's only the beginning.
Meteorites are so extraordinary rare, that you don't have to be a prophet to
forebode the development to come.
Meteorite market due to the limited amounts of material and the limited
number of collectors and offerors can change from one year to the other.
You as a collector of oriented ones, you certainly will have noticed what
happens now with oriented Sikhotes and even Gaos on ebay. Pieces, where one
or two years ago you could have been happy to get out 1.5-2.5$/g are now
paid with 5-15$. Simply because the supply runs out.
I'm collecting since 1981 and I am often sincerely shocked, how few
collectors are not aware, what for exceedingly rare material they are
collecting!

But Bob sell! Sell as fast as you can!! Imagine if in a mass iron is housing
a deadly germ from outer space, which will decimate the collectors by the
hundreds! Or perhaps Ali Baba will open soon the treasure cave and myriads
of tons of new meteorites will be unleashed and with his flying carpets he
will be able to bring down the nowadays prices of OCs, where almost half of
the price are only the transportation costs.
But before buy an atlas, identify the deserts of the Earth and make your
stats from the Bulletin database.

Well, I think others will enlighten you better, I have to care now to find a
roasted goose...

Martin




-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bob Evans [mailto:bobe5531_at_comcast.net]
Gesendet: Samstag, 11. November 2006 14:20
An: Martin Altmann
Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] advice...

There's always quite a bit of talk about dwindling supply. Who cares about
supply issues if there isn't much demand 5 years from now.
I sure would like to hear some feedback about demand.
Especially from the top dealers like Mike, Hupes, Elliot, Blaine etc.
I cant be the only collector wondering what my collection will be worth 10
or 20 years from now. I have enough invested to worry about losing 50% of
what I put in.
Some dealers who have been around for 20 + years should have a better idea
of where its headed.
Is the collector ( buyer ) base growing exponentially ? or is it holding
steady ? How does it compare to 10 years ago?

BTW- I have only been collecting since 2003
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann_at_meteorite-martin.de>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 7:04 AM
Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] advice...


Well, the good times in Sahara are over, we all have to get used with that
fact, although so many newer collectors refuse to face the truth.
The Munich show is always well frequented by Moroccans (it's not so far like
Tucson for them). Dramatically was the decline of the amounts of material
from the 2003 to the 2004 show. 2005 again remarkably less material compared
to 2004 was available.
And this year? This year they hit the absolute space rock bottom.
Prices are raising and raising. 0.14cents/g - I can't see any extortion with
that price. I know, that all are spoiled from the narrow peak of the desert
rush, but be prepared to pay more in the coming years.
I recommend you, if you feel the price would be to expensive, to send the
stones back and to buy from Bessey, from the rest of his stock, who can
offer unclassified OCs still at old prices.

Muhaddin Alaman

PS: Btw. the Moroccans also have to live..



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Dave
Harris
Gesendet: Samstag, 11. November 2006 13:14
An: metlist
Betreff: [meteorite-list] advice...

Hi Folks,

I think a few of you chaps know of Abdelfattah, a Moroccan dealer - I know
nowt about the chap personally. He has sent me some pics of 3.3kg of
meteorites (about 8 individuals).
Now, he's asking $140 a kg plus shipping - Having to make the assumption
that these are just OCs - this sounds very expensive to me. If anyone has
any advice or wants to see the pics - let me know. I do not think one can
tell a great deal from the pics.

I don't know whether or not it is worth me buying them 'on spec'.

Help!

dave
IMCA #0092
Sec.BIMS
www.bimsociety.org
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