[meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was SelfProclaimedPairingsIssues(SPPI)

From: David Weir <dgweir_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat May 6 19:22:13 2006
Message-ID: <445D2EC1.6050308_at_earthlink.net>

Adam,

One other bit of information that I have as well is the published
petrological, mineralogical, and geochemical analyses from these two
stones, and virtually all of the data overlap. This could mean that they
are merely launch-crater paired, but doesn't exclude an actual paired
landing.

Regards,
David



David Weir wrote:
> Hello Adam,
>
> I am not relying on any statements by my friends Aziz or Nelson to gauge
> whether or not NWA 3133 and 1839 are paired or not paired. I also have
> no bias for whichever scenario is correct, I just want to know. The
> following information is all that I have to go on, and it all supports a
> scenario that NWA 3133 and 1839 are likely paired. I wish I had
> something more definitive. If you have more definitive data that
> suggests they are not paired, then please advise us.
>
> 1.The following link to an abstract by Irving, Bunch, Rumble III, and
> Larson, which shows the relationship (pairing factor not directly
> addressed) of the metachondrites NWA 3133 and 1839 and their affiliation
> to the CV PB.
>
> <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2005/pdf/5218.pdf>
>
> 2.The following link is to the NAU webpage maintained by Ted Bunch and
> James Wittke, which uses the slash symbol between NWA 3133 and 1839 in
> the following sentence discussing their classification: "NWA 3133/1839
> paired specimens were originally classified as L7 chondrites..." Did you
> read the word "paired" Adam? They further refer to this combination
> 3133/1839 as "this meteorite", implying a single stone. Do you
> comprehend now why I believe they are paired? Am I jumping to a
> conclusion here based on heresay, as you imply? This sentence is
> presented in the section Primitive Ungrouped Achondrites at the
> following link:
>
> <http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Book-PrimitiveAchond.html>
>
> Actually Adam, your statement that I'm "in touch with scientists" is not
> accurate. I do not bother busy scientists with the zillions of questions
> that I have about the field of meteoritics, but instead, read and study
> on my own from published documents in order to keep my facts straight.
> When more facts about this pairing question are published in the future,
> I'll make any revisions to my systematic website that are necessary.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
>
>> Hello Dave and List,
>>
>> The so-called pairing to NWA 3133 has a different affinity as you like to
>> say although just as rare as a CV. You are in touch with scientists,
>> check
>> it out. Our material did not come from Aziz Habibi and anybody who
>> listens
>> to him should take what he says with a serious grain of salt. Anybody
>> who
>> has been to Morocco knows exactly what I am talking about. If you
>> recall,
>> the first "Official" data posted to the List by Nelson Oaks about the
>> suspected pairing was faked.
>>
>> If in doubt, check it out,
>>
>> Adam
Received on Sat 06 May 2006 07:18:25 PM PDT