[meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was SelfProclaimedPairingsIssues(SPPI)

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat May 6 19:21:02 2006
Message-ID: <009201c67163$b4e44e80$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

Fair enough, when the abstract is published, I will update the List. In the
meantime, accept the fact that batteries of testing on different continents
are underway so the last word on NWA 3133 is no where near finality as is
the case with other important meteorites. I do stay in touch with
scientists working on pieces of personal interest so what I offer is the
most up to date information on items that I am involved with. In this case,
I am sure scientists would share some of their valuable time with you. On a
another note, I am glad you do not rely on information gleaned from Nelson
Oaks or Aziz concerning meteorites that we are involved with.

Regards,

Adam

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Weir" <dgweir_at_earthlink.net>
To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Clowns . was
SelfProclaimedPairingsIssues(SPPI)


> Hello Adam,
>
> I am not relying on any statements by my friends Aziz or Nelson to gauge
> whether or not NWA 3133 and 1839 are paired or not paired. I also have
> no bias for whichever scenario is correct, I just want to know. The
> following information is all that I have to go on, and it all supports a
> scenario that NWA 3133 and 1839 are likely paired. I wish I had
> something more definitive. If you have more definitive data that
> suggests they are not paired, then please advise us.
>
> 1.The following link to an abstract by Irving, Bunch, Rumble III, and
> Larson, which shows the relationship (pairing factor not directly
> addressed) of the metachondrites NWA 3133 and 1839 and their affiliation
> to the CV PB.
>
> <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2005/pdf/5218.pdf>
>
> 2.The following link is to the NAU webpage maintained by Ted Bunch and
> James Wittke, which uses the slash symbol between NWA 3133 and 1839 in
> the following sentence discussing their classification: "NWA 3133/1839
> paired specimens were originally classified as L7 chondrites..." Did you
> read the word "paired" Adam? They further refer to this combination
> 3133/1839 as "this meteorite", implying a single stone. Do you
> comprehend now why I believe they are paired? Am I jumping to a
> conclusion here based on heresay, as you imply? This sentence is
> presented in the section Primitive Ungrouped Achondrites at the
> following link:
>
> <http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Book-PrimitiveAchond.html>
>
> Actually Adam, your statement that I'm "in touch with scientists" is not
> accurate. I do not bother busy scientists with the zillions of questions
> that I have about the field of meteoritics, but instead, read and study
> on my own from published documents in order to keep my facts straight.
> When more facts about this pairing question are published in the future,
> I'll make any revisions to my systematic website that are necessary.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
>
> > Hello Dave and List,
> >
> > The so-called pairing to NWA 3133 has a different affinity as you like
to
> > say although just as rare as a CV. You are in touch with scientists,
check
> > it out. Our material did not come from Aziz Habibi and anybody who
listens
> > to him should take what he says with a serious grain of salt. Anybody
who
> > has been to Morocco knows exactly what I am talking about. If you
recall,
> > the first "Official" data posted to the List by Nelson Oaks about the
> > suspected pairing was faked.
> >
> > If in doubt, check it out,
> >
> > Adam
>
>
>
>
>
Received on Sat 06 May 2006 07:20:06 PM PDT