[meteorite-list] Henbury History "Chindu chinna waru chingi yaku"
From: Kevin Forbes <vk3ukf_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Mar 10 16:40:51 2006 Message-ID: <BAY113-F18BB2CC03455528937515399ED0_at_phx.gbl> Hi folks, I think I mucked up the discovery of Wolfe Creek meteorite crater by aerial survey with Henbury, although an aerial survey of the craters was conducted in 1937 and I seem to remember seeing the photos. Anyway, I found some interesting data.. "Chindu chinna waru chingi yaku" which means "Sun walk fire devil rock" Department of Mines and Energy: Alice Springs: 58 Hartley Street, Tel: 08 8951 5658 Ask to see if Jacinta McKinley still works there? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards Gosses Bluff, from the travel log of http://www.infohub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7412&postcount=3 Aboriginal mythology has stories about the crater being created by something that came from the sky. Magic indeed, though the earth had not yet been trod by humans when this was created, and all that anyone has ever seen is the last small remnants of something much larger -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.marssociety.org.au/jnt-db/Australia-NT_S-Henbury.html Date typo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.marssociety.org.au/library/MSA-TEC-JNT-PM-02-02-JNT1_proposal-U-ver0B.pdf Same date typo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Società Toscana di Scienze Naturali, this website, a reference to a historical document. http://www.stsn.it/ a historical document that mentions, Alderman AR, 1932. The meteorite craters at Henbury,. Central Australia. Mineralogical Magazine, XXIII,. 136, 19-32, London http://www.stsn.it/serAvolCIX.htm http://www.stsn.it/serA109/05D'Orazio3B.pdf Some excerpts, HISTORICAL PUBLICATIONS ON METEORITES (1867-1934) IN THE «MISCELLANEA D’ACHIARDI» (DIPARTIMENTO DI SCIENZE DELLA TERRA, UNIVERSITY OF PISA, ITALY) Matteo might like to surf it for any other historical meteorite documents. It's an Italian site and 'Me non comprendi much Italiano'. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From this page, the bit that I couldn't remember, the aboriginal words. http://www.somerikko.net/old/geo/imp/refer.htm HENBURY, Australia Synonym: Double Punchbowl Age of 0.001 Myr has been offered. Meteorite: Henbury (iron IIA, med. oct.) found 1931 Among the aporiginals there is legend of fiery explosion. Aporiginal name for the place is "Chindu chinna waru chingi yaku" which means "Sun walk fire devil rock". So, it seems that this was an observed fall! Craters of Henbury crater Økm 1 0.023 Does not exist? 2 0.027 Does not exist? 3 0.065 4 0.070 4a 0.020 5 0.018 6 The Water Crater 0.073 7 Main Crater 0.180x0.140 Two craters? 8 0.075 9 ? Disappeared? 10 0.018 11 0.015 12 0.030 13 0.006 Hodge 1994 and CoM 1985 A.R. Alderman, Min. Mag., vol.23, p.19, 1932 A.R. Alderman, Rec. South Australian Mus., vol.4, p.561, 1932 ------------------------------------------------------------------- http://meteoritemag.uark.edu/611.htm Though his goal was to find a vast body of valuable ore, Barringer never did. Even by the time of the 1909 paper (his second of four major papers on the crater) he was well aware of the arguments for vaporization of the body on impact. Perhaps it was the intense desire to find the meteorite that clouded his judgment, but it was to be a misconception he never gave up. It would also be something other researchers elsewhere would bring to their investigations as well. At the Henbury craters, the last two of three suggestions made by A.R. Alderman of the University of Adelaide for continued work at Henbury related to locating, then drilling and prospecting the masses when found. Alderman wrote: (2) That use be made of geophysical methods in an attempt to locate the position of masses of meteoric iron in any of the craters. The locality, the type of country-rock, and the nature of the material to be located, seem most ideally suited to the use of such methods. (3) That if the position of a mass of iron be located by geophysical means, boring operations could then be proceeded with advantageously. Boring or drilling would certainly be of great value in prospecting the main craters. In some of the smaller ones it is possible that the meteoric material might be revealed by actual digging. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Australian Meteor Craters http://abc.net.au/science/k2/trek/4wd/Over11.htm Copyright © Karl S. Kruszelnicki Henbury Craters (NT, 24º 34'S, 133º 10'E) are a collection of 14 craters, about 130 kilometres south of Alice Springs. They are scattered over an area of about one square kilometre. The craters range from 10 metres to about 73 metres across. The Aboriginal name for these craters is ''chindu chinna waru chingi yabu'' which roughly means ''sun walk fire devil rock''. They are quite young, about 15,000 years old. ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.pacificislandtravel.com/australia/northern_territory/kingscanyon.asp Not far along this road there’s another turn-off, to Henbury Meteorite Craters. The extra-terrestrial shower that caused these twelve depressions, 2–180m in diameter, may have occurred in the last twenty thousand years, given that the Anangu have several names for the place, one of which translates as “sun walk fire devil rock”. ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.meteorman.org/info_2.htm ... field has been completely stripped of its fragments. It fell about 5000 years ago. It was in an area the native people call Sun Walk Fire Devil Rock ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/henbury.htm Discovered in 1931, the Henbury iron meteorites are found scattered among a group of 13 craters in the Northern Territory of Australia. The meteorites fell an estimated 10,000 years ago, exploding during descent, an event witnessed by the local Aborigines who term the area as "Sun walk fire devil rock". This, passed down through the generations and endorsed by a man who was the former meteorite curator in a Queensland, Australia museum, makes this the oldest witnessed fall... "It just can't be confirmed, there's no documented evidence". Classified as a nickel- iron medium octahedrite, the internal Widmanstatten pattern is coarse and in small specimens the sudden heating and twisting forces generated at the moment of impact altered their structure, erasing the pattern. ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.lovaura.com/shop.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.nyrockman.com/catalog-3.htm HENBURY Iron. Medium octahedrite (IIIAB) Northern Territory, Australia Found 1931 Approx. recovered weight 1,000 kg Thirteen craters located near Henbury Cattle Station, in arid Central Australia, were examined and meteorites recovered by the British Museum and the South Australian Museum. Crater Nos. 3, 4, 6, 7a, 7b, and 8 are true explosion craters, while the others are only impact holes. Over 1,200 kg of meteoritic iron ranging from large, fusion-crusted, regmaglypted individuals, to heavily deformed explosion fragments, to completely weathered shale balls, to metallic spherules, has been recovered, the largest mass weighing 181 kg. The area is now closed to collectors. This fall occurred over 5000 years ago, and the aboriginal tribes have named the location "Sun walk fire devil rock." Individual 52.2 g $78 Individual 78.0 g $117 Individual 95.7 g $144 --------------------------------- http://64.233.179.104/search? q=cache:49jfAO1cClwJ:www.tmag.tas.gov.au/AboutUs/downloads/AnnualRpt.pdf+Alderman+Henbury+report&hl=en&gl=au&ct=clnk& cd=6 Henbury meteorite, an iron octahedrite, weighing 12.69 kg. Donated under the Tax Incentive for theArts Scheme, by Mr David Kemp, Alice Springs, Northern Territory.This relatively large piece of Henbury was collected by the donor, from the crater site. The HenburyCraters are the site of a meteoritic fall which occurred 4200 years ago. They are the only knowncluster of meteoritic craters in the Southern Hemisphere. The donated specimen is a fine example,showing regmaglypts and other features. Regmaglypts are the pits on the ablatory surface of ironmeteorites formed by the vortices swirling the molten metal around as it reaches very high temper-atures caused by the frictional heat of entry of the meteor into the earth's atmosphere. ---------------------------------- http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2004-September/164311.html Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles. Paper: Daily Gleaner City: Kingston, Surrey, Jamaica Date: Thursday, July 16, 1931 Page: 19 Discover 13 Craters Made by a meteorite. Geologists Ask Australian Premier to Protect Site For Further Investigations ADELAIDE, Australia, July 10 - The Commonwealth Prime Minister has been asked to set aside as a reservation the site along the Fink River, in Central Australia, where thirteen large craters, caused thousands of years ago by a huge meteorite, have been discovered. The site is in Federal territory and the Prime Minister is being urged to take action to prevent its being despoiled by visitors. Scientists are interested in the discovery, on which a report was presented to a meeting of the Royal Society last might, and a party of university scientists soon will make further investigations. Three of the craters are larger then the biggest caused by the Siberian meteorite twenty-three years ago, and the largest is second in size only to the Canyon Diablo in Arizona. The craters range from 220 to ten yards wide, and more than 800 meteorite fragments are scattered over the surrounding country. They weigh from a few ounces to fifty pounds and consist mainly of metallic iron and nickel. The discovery followed reports received by Professor Grant, who with Sir Douglas Mawson arranged a fortnight's investigation by two geologists, Messrs. Alderman and Winzor. They state that the crater, in which trees are growing, are greatly reduced in size and depth as a result of erosion, but that the largest is fifty feet deep. The impact of the meteorite was so great that it generated melted rocks in the vicinity. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Impactite from Henbury, Australia YANG DING* AND DAVID R. VEBLEN http://www.minsocam.org/MSA/AmMin/TOC/Articles_Free/2004/Ding_p961-968_04.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NEWLY DISCOVERED METEOR CRATER METALLIC IMPACT SPHERULES: REPORT AND IMPLICATIONS. http://ilewg.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1907.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------ A metallic asteroid may have coincided with the fall of Rome http://omega.cohums.ohio-state.edu/mailing_lists/CLA-L/2003/02/0159.php ------------------------------------------------------------------ Meteorites Hit Jet And Farm Pasture In Sri Lanka http://prophecycorner.com/agee/procon1005.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- Meteorites Hit Jet And Farm Pasture In Sri Lanka http://www.rense.com/general35/meteoriteshitjet.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- An article by Dr A. Bevan Nov04 Friends NL.pmd http://www.earthmuseum.segs.uwa.edu.au/__data/page/48907/NOV04N.pdf --------------------------------------------------------------------- Zoomable satellite map of Earth's major impact structures http://geology.com/meteor-impact-craters.shtml --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.asap.unimelb.edu.au/bsparcs/physics/P001789p.htm The Henbury meteorite craters and geophysical prospecting. Australian Journal of Science, 1 (1938), 93-94. --------------------------------------------------------------------- A NICKEL PICKLE http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/nicc.html In 1930 an aerial survey covering around five hundred square miles of South Carolina coastal plain was undertaken. This mosaic of photographs revealed some quite unusual features--the area looked as if some outraged giant had blasted it with a colossal shotgun. Newly discovered impact craters were big news in the early thirties: some large structures had been discovered in Australia (Henbury Craters), and British explorer James Philby was, in 1932, led to find some impressive and actually fairly recent craters in the Arabian desert (Wabar Craters), by a guide who sang: >From Qariya strikes the sun upon the town; Blame not the guide that vainly seeks it now, Since the Destroying Power laid it low, Sparing nor cotton smock nor silken gown. That same year geologist Frank A Melton and physicist William Schriever, both of the University of Oklahoma, had finished a lengthy study of the unusual features revealed by the flying camera two years earlier. They reported their findings at a 1932 meeting of the Geological Society of America, and these were published the following year in the Journal of Geology, under the title "The Carolina Bays--Are They Meteorite Scars?" Later that year (1933), Edna Muldrow captured the attention of Harper's Monthly readers with this opening paragraph: What would happen if a comet should strike the earth? We do not like to dwell o that possibility, it is true; yet such evasion arises mainly because we are human and it is human to shun the unpleasant. So we bolster our sense of security by the assumption that what has not happened will not happen. This assumption is false. The truth is that the earth in the past has collided with heavenly bodies, and the more serious truth is that it may collide again. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Geophysical Report on the Henbury Meteorite Craters, Central Australia. J.M. Rayner 1939 http://www.lib.monash.edu.au/hal/maps/specials/nthn-aust-geol-reports-nt.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- I am under the impression that some aboriginal legends or oral histories about some of these astroblemes are evolving to incorporate known fact, or modern scientific knowledge. Kevin, VK3UKF. --------------------------------------------------------------------- >______________________________________________ >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Fri 10 Mar 2006 04:40:31 PM PST |
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