[meteorite-list] RED RAIN related
From: Kevin Forbes <vk3ukf_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Mar 10 16:31:26 2006 Message-ID: <BAY113-F22638102D58E648E07615199ED0_at_phx.gbl> Red Rain related. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Inevitability of Life http://www.jrmooneyham.com/ctctlif.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- Red rain http://www.strangemag.com/massive.red.rainshow.html Ehrenberg estimated that 720,000 lbs. of matter fell during a single shower, on October 17, 1846, near Lyons, France; and that 1/8th of the fall--90,000 lbs.--was composed of microscopic diatoms (Passat-staub und Blut-regen, 1847; and Amer. Journal of Science, II. xi. 372). --------------------------------------------------------------------- Red rain http://www.strangemag.com/redrain.html A list of articles regarding red rain. --------------------------------------------------------------------- High altitude lifeforms and bacteria http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue299/labnotes.html Wickramasinghe claims that the patterns of their occurrence—denser at higher altitudes—indicate that they are falling from above, rather than rising from beneath. He hopes to do an isotopic analysis, which is difficult because the samples are so small. But the isotope ratios for each element—slight variations in the mass and composition of an atom's nucleus—form a "planetary fingerprint" which will determine conclusively whether the bacteria originated on Earth or, as Wickramasinghe suspects, on a comet traveling through interplanetary space An even more controversial claim came from Naples University's D'Argenio, who claimed in mid-2001 to have isolated and revived bacteria he found in a 4.5-billion-year-old meteorite. "Their genetic code is unlike any known on Earth," he told reporters. Then, in September 2002, astrobiologist Dirk Schulze-Makuch from the University of Texas at El Paso announced that some of the chemicals in the hot, dry, acidic atmosphere of Venus looked a little suspicious. There was not enough carbon monoxide (something Earthly bacteria eat), and much too much hydrogen sulphide, sulphur dioxide, and carbonyl sulphide—short-lived gases which don't normally stick around unless replenished by bacteria. It's not quite a smoking gun, but it's ... hard to explain. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Negative Hydrogen Ion, aka Hydride Ion or Active Hydrogen http://www.h-minus-ion.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Weather Almanac for September 1998 Living On the Air http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc_1998/98sep02.htm In the 1960s, research by Malcolm Brown discovered living algae and other microbes in the orographic clouds (clouds forming when air moves over mountain summits) but none in the air above the clouds. Since then, many other studies have found lifeforms living high in the sky. Russian scientists, for example, have collected microbes (bacteria and fungi) between 58 and 75 km (36 - 47 miles) above the deserts of Kazakhstan. Observations show that air masses over land contain approximately 500 bacteria per cubic metre of air; the concentration falls over the ocean to about 50 out at 160 km (100 miles) out from shore and to one per cubic metre in the open ocean atmosphere. The census of aeroplankton species includes viruses, approximately 1000 species of bacteria, 40,000 varieties of fungi and hundreds of species of protozoa, algae, mosses and liverworts that live some part of their life cycle as aeroplankton. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Venus Atmosphere Temperature and Pressure Profiles Temperatures for Influenza Habitability http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/vel/1918vpt.htm (A speculative discussion about the possibility mamalian cell enzymes from earth existing in the upper venusian atmosphere is given at the end of this article.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Microbes from Space http://www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ss/stories/s219202.htm Broadcast Saturday 2/12/00 Summary: Did life on Earth begin on Earth? Transcript: Fred Hoyle: I don’t myself think that it’s very profitable to think in terms of life having started you know, here on the earth, and then together with my colleague in Cardiff, Professor Wickramasinghe, we looked at alternative places and we found to our astonishment that comets look as though they are very suitable places to produce life. Other evidence comes from a recent Indian high-altitude balloon flight. Wickramasinghe says that samples taken at 16 kilometres altitude, way up in the stratosphere, reveal a micro-organism that is not of this Earth. It seems to be a novel strain of a bacteria genus that is common on Earth. Scientists at NASA’s Astrobiology Institute have reacted cautiously, pointing out that a large portion of Earth’s microscopic species remain to be discovered. Indeed, many species ‘unlike any other’ have been uncovered right here on Earth in recent years. Also, in the eyes of aerobiologists, 16 kilometres up may not be considered all that high. After all, living fungal spores have been reported at altitudes of around 11 kilometres. Other evidence comes from a recent Indian high-altitude balloon flight. Wickramasinghe says that samples taken at 16 kilometres altitude, way up in the stratosphere, reveal a micro-organism that is not of this Earth. It seems to be a novel strain of a bacteria genus that is common on Earth. Scientists at NASA’s Astrobiology Institute have reacted cautiously, pointing out that a large portion of Earth’s microscopic species remain to be discovered. Indeed, many species ‘unlike any other’ have been uncovered right here on Earth in recent years. Also, in the eyes of aerobiologists, 16 kilometres up may not be considered all that high. After all, living fungal spores have been reported at altitudes of around 11 kilometres. And when you consider the sort of harsh conditions in which microbes have been found to live - around deep ocean volcanic vents, in the Antarctic ice and even inside nuclear reactors, is it too far-fetched to believe that they might survive inside rocks in space? It’ll be interesting to see what the wider scientific community makes of Wickramasinghe’s new claims. Guests on this program: Jonathan Nally Editor, Sky and Space 80 Ebley Street Bondi Junction NSW 2022 PO Box 1233 Bondi Junction NSW 2022 Tel: +61 (0)2 9369 3344 Fax: +61 (0)2 9369 3366 editor_at_skyandspace.com.au Further information: Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe http://www.coseti.org/wickrama.htm NASA Astrobiology Institute http://nai.arc.nasa.gov/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Limits of Life on Earth: Are They the Key to Life on Other Planets? http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1997/pr9761/pr9761.txt --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Zero Genesis http://www.clydelewis.com/dis/genesis/genesis.shtml --------------------------------------------------------------------- >Hi, > > Many interesting items about the red rain. >Mark Ford mentioned that the article in the >New Scientist magazine suggested bat blood, >presumably from large flights of bats being struck >by planes or otherwise aerially injured. So, I 've >been researching bat's blood. (These things take >you odd places, don't they?) > > The red blood cells of mammals are without >DNA, since they are not intended to reproduce. >Red blood cells are generated in the bones, >released to the blood stream, live a short life, >and die. Hence, no DNA nor cell nucleus. >The appearance of the "alien cells" in the >SEM microphotographs greatly resemble >mammalian red blood cells. > > Bat blood red cells are somewhat unique >among mammalian red cells. Human red cells >have a life span measured in weeks, not months >or years. Bat red cells are very long-lived, long >enough, in fact, that we are not sure how long >they live. > > The blood of bats has the highest known concentration of red cells of >any mammal; their >blood is wall-to-wall red cells. Moreover, the >chemical composition of the bat red cell is very >high in lipids, far more fatty than any other >mammal's. > > This facts explain many of the characteristics >of the "alien cells." The high lipid content and >long lived cells explain how they can remain >undecayed and stably preserved for a long period >since they were collected. Several papers on bat >blood remarked on how "self-preservative" it was. > > The high density of red blood cells in bat blood >explains how a "red rain" would seem to consist of >nothing but these cells, with little or no other organic >debris being present. I would expect that animal >and insect scavengers would have eliminated any >little bat scraps before the "red rain" was collected. > > As far as their appearance, the following paper: >http://www.genomesize.com/rgregory/reprints/MammalRBC.pdf >has microphotos of bat eryhtrocytes (and cat and >human). The resemblance to the microphotographs >of the "alien cells" is striking. The "thick walls," for >example, are an artifact of squashing the thick rims >of the red cells flat while making the slides. You see >the same "thick walls" in all the red cells shown. > > The bat cells are more irregular in shape than >the cat and human cells, like the "aliens." Their size >corresponds to the size of bat erythrocytes. I don't >find anything that doesn't fit. Personally, I'm pretty well >convinced that's what the "aliens" are: murdered bats. >Helicopters? Jet intakes? > > Spores of any kind are pretty much out of the >question since the spores of all sporulating life are a >DNA delivery system, and these "aliens" have no >DNA. I'm afraid the only aliens we could work into >this picture would be aliens who slaughter bats in >large numbers for sport. > > >Sterling K. Webb > >______________________________________________ >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Fri 10 Mar 2006 04:31:05 PM PST |
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