[meteorite-list] Tired of this string

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Jun 2 20:54:18 2005
Message-ID: <00ce01c567d6$da4a6ca0$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

Stan,

For some reason you will say and do anything to create trouble for us. Your
self proclaimed pairings caused problems with us and the Aronsons in Tucson.
You claimed a Ureilite in the Aronson's possession was the same as material
we already had in order to try and screw up a deal. The Aronsons were smart
enough not to buy into it. Luckily so, because it turned out to be
completely different. I have to ask myself why somebody would try to
interfere in a deal that had nothing to do with them? What kind of person
goes around badmouthing somebody they do not know?

Even though four respected List members and two scientists reported a
difference in the so-called collection-in-a-slice, you still tried to cause
problems. Why should I apologize to somebody trying to create a problem
where none exists? By the way, your badmouthing in Tucson brought out a lot
of choice comments from other dealers. Badmouthing people you don't know
will cause more grief than you will ever realize. Try taking these matters
up in private if you have a beef with me.

If you have more arguments with me please take it off of the List and I will
do the same.

Regards,

Adam

----- Original Message -----
From: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A statement in regards to NWA 3133


> Adam,
>
> I'd like to quote Dick Cheney here, but I'll show the list some respect
> instead and refrain from using the same explicative he was reported using
by
> the press.
>
> you LITERALLY had the cahones to PUBLICALLY call me a liar over the
> 'collection in a slice' photo I posted, and then you werent man enough to
> appologize when I presented documentation that the material was infact
> purchased from the hupe collection. The best I got was a grudging 'oh,
well
> i guess thats the same material then' from you. And yet you lecture me
about
> respect?
>
> I'm NOT trying to debate this issue with you I'm making sure everyone has
a
> fair and accurate representation of the situation and the nature of the
> material in question- I do not like the insinuation that you have made
that
> claims of pairing between 1839 and 3133 are questionable when one of the
> leading meteorite experts in the world says the stuff is paired on his
> website. when my claims of pairing are based upon the NAU web site I cant
> see how you can attack the credibility of what I have said without
attacking
> the credibility of NAU. I am simply parroting what they say.
>
> I have NOT used your 'copyrighted material' in my auctions. The fact that
> you are selling material is NOT your intellectual property, and when I
> removed your name from my auction I did it as a polite courtesy to you,
not
> out of any moral obligation.
>
> I could care less if you have any respect for me, as your statements have
> done nothing to earn mine.
>
> stan
>
> PS - I appologize to the list for taking this fairly personal post public,
> but I feel as though I must respond to the allegations made. This will be
my
> last post on the subject.
>
> >From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A statement in regards to NWA 3133
> >Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:45:39 -0700
> >
> >Hi Stan.
> >
> >I will not comment on the pairing issue again as long as their is
> >sufficient
> >scientific data to back it up. Stan, I sense you are trying to create
some
> >kind of an argument instead of a debate here. I talk to Dr. Bunch almost
> >daily so I do not appreciate your insinuations that I have no respect for
> >his work.
> >
> >My problem is with dealers, not unlike yourself, borrowing copyrighted
> >descriptions and incorporating complete sentences written by us into
their
> >own descriptions. You have mentioned my first and last name in your ebay
> >descriptions even after I asked you kindly to remove them. Show some
> >respect for other peoples work instead of starting arguments and you may
> >receive some as well.
> >
> >Respectfully,
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >Adam Hupe
> >The Hupe Collection
> >Team LunarRock
> >IMCA 2185
> >raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >stealing parts of our descriptions
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>
> >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A statement in regards to NWA 3133
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >My last comments. The so-called official descriptions posted by Stan
> >to
> > > >the
> > > >List which are now in the archives differ greatly than what is now
> >posted
> > > >in
> > > >the bulletin.
> > >
> > > For the record I never claimed to have an 'offical' description, so
> >called
> > > or otherwise. Infact my ebay auctions went to great pains to alert
> >potential
> > > bidders to the tentative nature of the classifcation data. The
> >information
> >I
> > > was given was a 'working classification' and regardless of any
> >diffrences
> > > the most important issue I belive is that it apears to remain that
1839
> >and
> > > 3133 are infact very likely to be paired.
> > >
> > >
> > > >In any case, I have stated from the beginning that I have no problem
> >with
> > > >what qualified institutions have to say about pairings.
> > >
> > > To set the record straight then, given the statements on NAU's web
site
> >I
> > > guess you have no problem with someone calling 1839 paired to 3133
then,
> > > correct? I'm sure everyone will be glad to see this is the last we
will
> >see
> > > on the matter. I'm sure hoping you arent holding out for the
> >congressional
> > > testimony.
> > >
> > >
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