[meteorite-list] A statement in regards to NWA 3133

From: stan . <laser_maniac_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Jun 2 20:12:45 2005
Message-ID: <BAY101-F31EAA452CEAD632C7A42EAF0070_at_phx.gbl>

Adam,

I'd like to quote Dick Cheney here, but I'll show the list some respect
instead and refrain from using the same explicative he was reported using by
the press.

you LITERALLY had the cahones to PUBLICALLY call me a liar over the
'collection in a slice' photo I posted, and then you werent man enough to
appologize when I presented documentation that the material was infact
purchased from the hupe collection. The best I got was a grudging 'oh, well
i guess thats the same material then' from you. And yet you lecture me about
respect?

I'm NOT trying to debate this issue with you I'm making sure everyone has a
fair and accurate representation of the situation and the nature of the
material in question- I do not like the insinuation that you have made that
claims of pairing between 1839 and 3133 are questionable when one of the
leading meteorite experts in the world says the stuff is paired on his
website. when my claims of pairing are based upon the NAU web site I cant
see how you can attack the credibility of what I have said without attacking
the credibility of NAU. I am simply parroting what they say.

I have NOT used your 'copyrighted material' in my auctions. The fact that
you are selling material is NOT your intellectual property, and when I
removed your name from my auction I did it as a polite courtesy to you, not
out of any moral obligation.

I could care less if you have any respect for me, as your statements have
done nothing to earn mine.

stan

PS - I appologize to the list for taking this fairly personal post public,
but I feel as though I must respond to the allegations made. This will be my
last post on the subject.

>From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A statement in regards to NWA 3133
>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:45:39 -0700
>
>Hi Stan.
>
>I will not comment on the pairing issue again as long as their is
>sufficient
>scientific data to back it up. Stan, I sense you are trying to create some
>kind of an argument instead of a debate here. I talk to Dr. Bunch almost
>daily so I do not appreciate your insinuations that I have no respect for
>his work.
>
>My problem is with dealers, not unlike yourself, borrowing copyrighted
>descriptions and incorporating complete sentences written by us into their
>own descriptions. You have mentioned my first and last name in your ebay
>descriptions even after I asked you kindly to remove them. Show some
>respect for other peoples work instead of starting arguments and you may
>receive some as well.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>------------------------------------
>Adam Hupe
>The Hupe Collection
>Team LunarRock
>IMCA 2185
>raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
>
>
>
>
>stealing parts of our descriptions
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>
>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 4:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A statement in regards to NWA 3133
>
>
> >
> > >My last comments. The so-called official descriptions posted by Stan
>to
> > >the
> > >List which are now in the archives differ greatly than what is now
>posted
> > >in
> > >the bulletin.
> >
> > For the record I never claimed to have an 'offical' description, so
>called
> > or otherwise. Infact my ebay auctions went to great pains to alert
>potential
> > bidders to the tentative nature of the classifcation data. The
>information
>I
> > was given was a 'working classification' and regardless of any
>diffrences
> > the most important issue I belive is that it apears to remain that 1839
>and
> > 3133 are infact very likely to be paired.
> >
> >
> > >In any case, I have stated from the beginning that I have no problem
>with
> > >what qualified institutions have to say about pairings.
> >
> > To set the record straight then, given the statements on NAU's web site
>I
> > guess you have no problem with someone calling 1839 paired to 3133 then,
> > correct? I'm sure everyone will be glad to see this is the last we will
>see
> > on the matter. I'm sure hoping you arent holding out for the
>congressional
> > testimony.
> >
> >
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