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From: Martin <Martin_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:05 2004
Message-ID: <001c01c3e002$afe54320$6de950d9_at_9y6y40j>

Yep, Michel, Paul, Mike,

this was my point, when I cited Mike's remark.

I'm a little dissapointed, because whenever I have a meteoritic question to
this list, I recieve 0 - 3 answers,
but if I steal a cookie from Mike&Matteo's 5 o'clock-tea-table, I'll get 8
or 10.
(btw anyone there for my mexican greenhorn, who he can ask in Tucson?)

For both of them greetings from very Old Europe, hope this helps:

.......................Sed nunc quoque turpes
Litibus exercent linguas pulsoque pudore,
Quamvis sint sub aqua, sub aqua maledicere temptant.
Vox quoque iam rauca est, inflataque colla tumescunt,
Ipsaque dilatant patulos convicia rictus.

Martin A.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Franco" <michel_at_caillou-noir.com>
To: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?

> PLEASE DON't MIX UP ALL EUROPEAN DEALERS.
>
> my 2 cents
>
> MICHEL FRANCO,
>
> HUNTER AND DEALER.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?
>
>
> > "the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants."
> >
> > ???
> >
> > and the US-dealers of their prices?
> >
> > Martin A.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> > To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>; "David
> > Freeman" <dfreeman_at_fascination.com>;
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?
> >
> >
> > > the problem I have with you is that you stole some Fredericksburg
> > meteorite
> > > from me, you bought it, never paid it off, and claim that since it
> rusted,
> > > you need not pay.
> > > That makes you a thief.
> > > the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>
> > > To: "David Freeman" <dfreeman_at_fascination.com>;
> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?
> > >
> > >
> > > > The same I task of meteorites found in America, for me
> > > > is all imported from the desert and strangely found in
> > > > USA deserts, and strangely I am not the only one to
> > > > think them but also persons of some laboratories....
> > > > that strange eh? However I will report several to the
> > > > European dealers - all serious ones to 100% at the
> > > > moment, while for the moment the only problems that I
> > > > have had have been alone with
> > > > Americans - about what some personages think about
> > > > they.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Matteo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- David Freeman <dfreeman_at_fascination.com> wrote:
> > > > > Half the meteorites I see posted from European
> > > > > amatures are fraudulent.
> > > > > I SUSPECT ALL with low credentials. Even here in the
> > > > > United States.
> > > > > Unless they are found by Marines... ;-)
> > > > > Dave Freeman
> > > > >
> > > > > M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >why....is not possible find a iron meteorite in
> > > > > Spain?
> > > > > >Or is type the question italian meteorites,
> > > > > impossible
> > > > > >to find? If this is a Sikhote alin well, for me the
> > > > > >Taza is all sikhote's find in desert see is many
> > > > > many
> > > > > >similar, or Etter for me is a NWA put in
> > > > > USA....hard
> > > > > >give a confirm....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Matteo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- "Jerry A. Wallace" <jwal2000_at_swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
><http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>>Kind regards,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>*Bernhard "/Rendelius"/ Rems*
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>Well, Bernhard, I had the same initial reaction to
> > > > > >>the pictures that
> > > > > >>Dave F. did; it sure
> > > > > >>looked like some Sikhote Alin schrapnel.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>But aside from that, judging from their eBay ad
> > > > > text
> > > > > >>description, it
> > > > > >>appears that there
> > > > > >>are none of the standard descriptors nor expected
> > > > > >>phrases present in the
> > > > > >>ad that would
> > > > > >>lend credibility to their claim of having found a
> > > > > >>meteorite, with one
> > > > > >>exception which I
> > > > > >>will expand on below.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Some descriptors and/or phrases that should be
> > > > > >>present in an ad that
> > > > > >>would help ensure
> > > > > >>authenticity are:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... burned down the barn, the store, the
> > > > > outhouse,
> > > > > >>etc.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... frightened- Mama, the horse, the goat, the
> > > > > >>pig, etc.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... killed the cow, the dog, the mailman, etc.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... too hot to touch for three days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... set the field, the woods, Charlie, etc., on
> > > > > >>fire.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... glowed real bright green, red, blue, etc.,
> > > > > all
> > > > > >>night.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... melted the shovel, pick, car, cat, etc.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>* ... picked that little sucker up out of the
> > > > > bottom
> > > > > >>of the ten foot
> > > > > >>deep crater that it made.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>There are, of course, any number of other
> > > > > >>descriptor/phrases that lend
> > > > > >>virtually
> > > > > >>infallible authenticity to what would otherwise be
> > > > > >>'questionable
> > > > > >>meteorites'. But
> > > > > >>the ones above will give a good start to novices
> > > > > >>unfamiliar with what to
> > > > > >>look for
> > > > > >>in the eBay ads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>The one item in the eBay ad description that had a
> > > > > >>ring of truth to it
> > > > > >>was the
> > > > > >>mention that it was found only twenty minutes
> > > > > after
> > > > > >>falling.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>I can easily imagine the following scenario
> > > > > (you'll
> > > > > >>have to excuse me
> > > > > >>for not
> > > > > >>illustrating this with people from the towns of
> > > > > >>Palencia and Le�n in
> > > > > >>Spain; I
> > > > > >>have to go with what I'm familiar with):
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >><Zeb and Luke are rocking on the front porch of
> > > > > >>their shack high in the
> > > > > >>Ozark
> > > > > >>mountains, in the cool of the evening, imbibing
> > > > > >>their nightly refreshment.
> > > > > >>NOTE: Setting not important- same thing can and
> > > > > does
> > > > > >>happen anywhere in
> > > > > >>the world.>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>ZEB: "Looky thar, Luke, a shootin' star!"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>LUKE: "Yep. Shore nuff, Zeb, 'nother one o' them
> > > > > >>rascals."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>ZEB: "Looks like it landed jes' over that hill
> > > > > >>yonder. Let's go git that
> > > > > >>sucker."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>LUKE: "Alrighty. I'll jes' grab the jug to take
> > > > > >>along. Nice night fer a
> > > > > >>stroll ennyhow"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >><Down the road and behind the hill twenty minutes
> > > > > >>later.>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>ZEB: "Yep. Thar she lies, Luke. Rat thar in the
> > > > > >>smack dab middle o' the
> > > > > >>trail."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>LUKE: "Wal, whatcha wanna do with this one, Zeb?"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>ZEB: "Wal, I reckin we can do what we done with
> > > > > all
> > > > > >>them others, Luke.
> > > > > >>Let's
> > > > > >>take 'er back to the shack, take some o' them
> > > > > >>deegital pichers of it and
> > > > > >>git the little sucker listed on eBay as quick as
> > > > > we
> > > > > >>can."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>LUKE: "Sounds like a plan to me, Zeb. Can always
> > > > > use
> > > > > >>that extree money these
> > > > > >>thangs bring in. Need 'nother snort?"
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>ZEB: "Yup."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>[With apologies to Arkansas Steve Arnold and other
> > > > > >>Southerners likely to
> > > > > >>take offense.]
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>West Texas Jerry
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>**
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >
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