[meteorite-list] What do you think of that?
From: Michel Franco <michel_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:05 2004 Message-ID: <008901c3e002$ea2ed500$06c83551_at_cailloubi12zzr> Sorry Martin, I studied latin 40 years ago. I left it behind. Have you a translation in meteoritics !!! Best R. Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > Yep, Michel, Paul, Mike, > > this was my point, when I cited Mike's remark. > > I'm a little dissapointed, because whenever I have a meteoritic question to > this list, I recieve 0 - 3 answers, > but if I steal a cookie from Mike&Matteo's 5 o'clock-tea-table, I'll get 8 > or 10. > (btw anyone there for my mexican greenhorn, who he can ask in Tucson?) > > For both of them greetings from very Old Europe, hope this helps: > > .......................Sed nunc quoque turpes > Litibus exercent linguas pulsoque pudore, > Quamvis sint sub aqua, sub aqua maledicere temptant. > Vox quoque iam rauca est, inflataque colla tumescunt, > Ipsaque dilatant patulos convicia rictus. > > Martin A. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michel Franco" <michel_at_caillou-noir.com> > To: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>; > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > > > > PLEASE DON't MIX UP ALL EUROPEAN DEALERS. > > > > my 2 cents > > > > MICHEL FRANCO, > > > > HUNTER AND DEALER. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de> > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > > > > > > > "the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants." > > > > > > ??? > > > > > > and the US-dealers of their prices? > > > > > > Martin A. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net> > > > To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>; "David > > > Freeman" <dfreeman_at_fascination.com>; > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:46 AM > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > > > > > > > > > > the problem I have with you is that you stole some Fredericksburg > > > meteorite > > > > from me, you bought it, never paid it off, and claim that since it > > rusted, > > > > you need not pay. > > > > That makes you a thief. > > > > the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants. > > > > Mike Farmer > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it> > > > > To: "David Freeman" <dfreeman_at_fascination.com>; > > > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:03 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same I task of meteorites found in America, for me > > > > > is all imported from the desert and strangely found in > > > > > USA deserts, and strangely I am not the only one to > > > > > think them but also persons of some laboratories.... > > > > > that strange eh? However I will report several to the > > > > > European dealers - all serious ones to 100% at the > > > > > moment, while for the moment the only problems that I > > > > > have had have been alone with > > > > > Americans - about what some personages think about > > > > > they. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matteo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- David Freeman <dfreeman_at_fascination.com> wrote: > > > > > > Half the meteorites I see posted from European > > > > > > amatures are fraudulent. > > > > > > I SUSPECT ALL with low credentials. Even here in the > > > > > > United States. > > > > > > Unless they are found by Marines... ;-) > > > > > > Dave Freeman > > > > > > > > > > > > M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >why....is not possible find a iron meteorite in > > > > > > Spain? > > > > > > >Or is type the question italian meteorites, > > > > > > impossible > > > > > > >to find? If this is a Sikhote alin well, for me the > > > > > > >Taza is all sikhote's find in desert see is many > > > > > > many > > > > > > >similar, or Etter for me is a NWA put in > > > > > > USA....hard > > > > > > >give a confirm.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Matteo > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- "Jerry A. Wallace" <jwal2000_at_swbell.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Kind regards, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>*Bernhard "/Rendelius"/ Rems* > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>Well, Bernhard, I had the same initial reaction to > > > > > > >>the pictures that > > > > > > >>Dave F. did; it sure > > > > > > >>looked like some Sikhote Alin schrapnel. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>But aside from that, judging from their eBay ad > > > > > > text > > > > > > >>description, it > > > > > > >>appears that there > > > > > > >>are none of the standard descriptors nor expected > > > > > > >>phrases present in the > > > > > > >>ad that would > > > > > > >>lend credibility to their claim of having found a > > > > > > >>meteorite, with one > > > > > > >>exception which I > > > > > > >>will expand on below. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>Some descriptors and/or phrases that should be > > > > > > >>present in an ad that > > > > > > >>would help ensure > > > > > > >>authenticity are: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... burned down the barn, the store, the > > > > > > outhouse, > > > > > > >>etc. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... frightened- Mama, the horse, the goat, the > > > > > > >>pig, etc. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... killed the cow, the dog, the mailman, etc. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... too hot to touch for three days. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... set the field, the woods, Charlie, etc., on > > > > > > >>fire. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... glowed real bright green, red, blue, etc., > > > > > > all > > > > > > >>night. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... melted the shovel, pick, car, cat, etc. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>* ... picked that little sucker up out of the > > > > > > bottom > > > > > > >>of the ten foot > > > > > > >>deep crater that it made. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>There are, of course, any number of other > > > > > > >>descriptor/phrases that lend > > > > > > >>virtually > > > > > > >>infallible authenticity to what would otherwise be > > > > > > >>'questionable > > > > > > >>meteorites'. But > > > > > > >>the ones above will give a good start to novices > > > > > > >>unfamiliar with what to > > > > > > >>look for > > > > > > >>in the eBay ads. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>The one item in the eBay ad description that had a > > > > > > >>ring of truth to it > > > > > > >>was the > > > > > > >>mention that it was found only twenty minutes > > > > > > after > > > > > > >>falling. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>I can easily imagine the following scenario > > > > > > (you'll > > > > > > >>have to excuse me > > > > > > >>for not > > > > > > >>illustrating this with people from the towns of > > > > > > >>Palencia and León in > > > > > > >>Spain; I > > > > > > >>have to go with what I'm familiar with): > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >><Zeb and Luke are rocking on the front porch of > > > > > > >>their shack high in the > > > > > > >>Ozark > > > > > > >>mountains, in the cool of the evening, imbibing > > > > > > >>their nightly refreshment. > > > > > > >>NOTE: Setting not important- same thing can and > > > > > > does > > > > > > >>happen anywhere in > > > > > > >>the world.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>ZEB: "Looky thar, Luke, a shootin' star!" > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>LUKE: "Yep. Shore nuff, Zeb, 'nother one o' them > > > > > > >>rascals." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>ZEB: "Looks like it landed jes' over that hill > > > > > > >>yonder. Let's go git that > > > > > > >>sucker." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>LUKE: "Alrighty. I'll jes' grab the jug to take > > > > > > >>along. Nice night fer a > > > > > > >>stroll ennyhow" > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >><Down the road and behind the hill twenty minutes > > > > > > >>later.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>ZEB: "Yep. Thar she lies, Luke. Rat thar in the > > > > > > >>smack dab middle o' the > > > > > > >>trail." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>LUKE: "Wal, whatcha wanna do with this one, Zeb?" > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>ZEB: "Wal, I reckin we can do what we done with > > > > > > all > > > > > > >>them others, Luke. > > > > > > >>Let's > > > > > > >>take 'er back to the shack, take some o' them > > > > > > >>deegital pichers of it and > > > > > > >>git the little sucker listed on eBay as quick as > > > > > > we > > > > > > >>can." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>LUKE: "Sounds like a plan to me, Zeb. Can always > > > > > > use > > > > > > >>that extree money these > > > > > > >>thangs bring in. Need 'nother snort?" > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>ZEB: "Yup." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>[With apologies to Arkansas Steve Arnold and other > > > > > > >>Southerners likely to > > > > > > >>take offense.] > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>West Texas Jerry > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>>** > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>______________________________________________ > > > > > > >>Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > > > >>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > > >M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato > > > > > > >Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, > > > > > > ITALY > > > > > > >Email: mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it > > > > > > >Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection > > > > > > Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info > > > > > > >International Meteorite Collectors Association > > > > > > #2140 > > > > > > >MSN Messanger: spacerocks_at_hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > >EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > > > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > >Yahoo! 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