[meteorite-list] What do you think of that?

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From: Michel Franco <michel_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:05 2004
Message-ID: <002e01c3dffd$f4d16770$06c83551_at_cailloubi12zzr>

PLEASE DON't MIX UP ALL EUROPEAN DEALERS.

my 2 cents

MICHEL FRANCO,

HUNTER AND DEALER.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?

> "the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants."
>
> ???
>
> and the US-dealers of their prices?
>
> Martin A.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>; "David
> Freeman" <dfreeman_at_fascination.com>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?
>
>
> > the problem I have with you is that you stole some Fredericksburg
> meteorite
> > from me, you bought it, never paid it off, and claim that since it
rusted,
> > you need not pay.
> > That makes you a thief.
> > the European dealers should be proud of Matteo and his rants.
> > Mike Farmer
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>
> > To: "David Freeman" <dfreeman_at_fascination.com>;
> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What do you think of that?
> >
> >
> > > The same I task of meteorites found in America, for me
> > > is all imported from the desert and strangely found in
> > > USA deserts, and strangely I am not the only one to
> > > think them but also persons of some laboratories....
> > > that strange eh? However I will report several to the
> > > European dealers - all serious ones to 100% at the
> > > moment, while for the moment the only problems that I
> > > have had have been alone with
> > > Americans - about what some personages think about
> > > they.
> > >
> > >
> > > Matteo
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Freeman <dfreeman_at_fascination.com> wrote:
> > > > Half the meteorites I see posted from European
> > > > amatures are fraudulent.
> > > > I SUSPECT ALL with low credentials. Even here in the
> > > > United States.
> > > > Unless they are found by Marines... ;-)
> > > > Dave Freeman
> > > >
> > > > M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >why....is not possible find a iron meteorite in
> > > > Spain?
> > > > >Or is type the question italian meteorites,
> > > > impossible
> > > > >to find? If this is a Sikhote alin well, for me the
> > > > >Taza is all sikhote's find in desert see is many
> > > > many
> > > > >similar, or Etter for me is a NWA put in
> > > > USA....hard
> > > > >give a confirm....
> > > > >
> > > > >Matteo
> > > > >
> > > > >--- "Jerry A. Wallace" <jwal2000_at_swbell.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
><http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2219315732&category=3239
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>>Kind regards,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>*Bernhard "/Rendelius"/ Rems*
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>Well, Bernhard, I had the same initial reaction to
> > > > >>the pictures that
> > > > >>Dave F. did; it sure
> > > > >>looked like some Sikhote Alin schrapnel.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>But aside from that, judging from their eBay ad
> > > > text
> > > > >>description, it
> > > > >>appears that there
> > > > >>are none of the standard descriptors nor expected
> > > > >>phrases present in the
> > > > >>ad that would
> > > > >>lend credibility to their claim of having found a
> > > > >>meteorite, with one
> > > > >>exception which I
> > > > >>will expand on below.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Some descriptors and/or phrases that should be
> > > > >>present in an ad that
> > > > >>would help ensure
> > > > >>authenticity are:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... burned down the barn, the store, the
> > > > outhouse,
> > > > >>etc.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... frightened- Mama, the horse, the goat, the
> > > > >>pig, etc.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... killed the cow, the dog, the mailman, etc.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... too hot to touch for three days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... set the field, the woods, Charlie, etc., on
> > > > >>fire.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... glowed real bright green, red, blue, etc.,
> > > > all
> > > > >>night.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... melted the shovel, pick, car, cat, etc.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>* ... picked that little sucker up out of the
> > > > bottom
> > > > >>of the ten foot
> > > > >>deep crater that it made.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>There are, of course, any number of other
> > > > >>descriptor/phrases that lend
> > > > >>virtually
> > > > >>infallible authenticity to what would otherwise be
> > > > >>'questionable
> > > > >>meteorites'. But
> > > > >>the ones above will give a good start to novices
> > > > >>unfamiliar with what to
> > > > >>look for
> > > > >>in the eBay ads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>The one item in the eBay ad description that had a
> > > > >>ring of truth to it
> > > > >>was the
> > > > >>mention that it was found only twenty minutes
> > > > after
> > > > >>falling.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I can easily imagine the following scenario
> > > > (you'll
> > > > >>have to excuse me
> > > > >>for not
> > > > >>illustrating this with people from the towns of
> > > > >>Palencia and Le�n in
> > > > >>Spain; I
> > > > >>have to go with what I'm familiar with):
> > > > >>
> > > > >><Zeb and Luke are rocking on the front porch of
> > > > >>their shack high in the
> > > > >>Ozark
> > > > >>mountains, in the cool of the evening, imbibing
> > > > >>their nightly refreshment.
> > > > >>NOTE: Setting not important- same thing can and
> > > > does
> > > > >>happen anywhere in
> > > > >>the world.>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>ZEB: "Looky thar, Luke, a shootin' star!"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>LUKE: "Yep. Shore nuff, Zeb, 'nother one o' them
> > > > >>rascals."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>ZEB: "Looks like it landed jes' over that hill
> > > > >>yonder. Let's go git that
> > > > >>sucker."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>LUKE: "Alrighty. I'll jes' grab the jug to take
> > > > >>along. Nice night fer a
> > > > >>stroll ennyhow"
> > > > >>
> > > > >><Down the road and behind the hill twenty minutes
> > > > >>later.>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>ZEB: "Yep. Thar she lies, Luke. Rat thar in the
> > > > >>smack dab middle o' the
> > > > >>trail."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>LUKE: "Wal, whatcha wanna do with this one, Zeb?"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>ZEB: "Wal, I reckin we can do what we done with
> > > > all
> > > > >>them others, Luke.
> > > > >>Let's
> > > > >>take 'er back to the shack, take some o' them
> > > > >>deegital pichers of it and
> > > > >>git the little sucker listed on eBay as quick as
> > > > we
> > > > >>can."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>LUKE: "Sounds like a plan to me, Zeb. Can always
> > > > use
> > > > >>that extree money these
> > > > >>thangs bring in. Need 'nother snort?"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>ZEB: "Yup."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>[With apologies to Arkansas Steve Arnold and other
> > > > >>Southerners likely to
> > > > >>take offense.]
> > > > >>
> > > > >>West Texas Jerry
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>**
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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> > > > >
> > > > >=====
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> > > > ITALY
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> > > > #2140
> > > > >MSN Messanger: spacerocks_at_hotmail.com
> > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
> > > Email: mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it
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