[meteorite-list] People have left the list because of personal attacks.

From: j.divelbiss_at_att.net <j.divelbiss_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:04 2004
Message-ID: <012120040226.21947.34ae_at_att.net>

Mike and others,

I accept your back handed slap with dignity. It was deserved. I too miss
Bernd. He was my favorite list personality when I first became a member. Over
time I noticed he posted less and less. It is no wonder with all the crap
that has gone on in he last two years including my own idiotic posts at times.

>From here on I propose to stay within the lines of reason, and will try with
my best effort to keep from attacking anyone...especially towards a select
few who will still drive me crazy with just about every post they make.

If I can't do so, I will recognize it and volunteerly move on and leave the
list also...without a problem.

My apologies to all...including Matteo,

John

> All and no one in particular,
>
> I have been in touch with Bernd and was very sad to learn that he left the
> list because of the verbal abuse that continues to fly. People are using
> the list to attack others and it is disgraceful.
>
> I wonder how many other people have dropped out because of this behaviour?
> How many newbies have been turned off of meteorites after seeing the crap
> posted?
>
> I have been lucky enough to have met Bernd and visited with him in Germany
> this past summer. Bernd and Pauline openned their home to me and we had a
> great time discussing meteroties and astronomy and art and so much more. I
> have also been invited back and plan to visit summer 05. It is because of
> this list that I got to know Bernd. Now he has left and many people will
> not get the benefit of insightfull comments, extensive data base, and
> enthusiasm.
>
> I deeply enjoy meteorites and find that the list helps me keep in touch with
> other enthusiasts and in touch with what is going on in the field.
> Unfortunately, not as much as it used to.
>
> If you have something to say to another person then do so privately. If you
> attack someone opennly then you are simply trying to use the list to advance
> your own agenda and to gang up on that person. Many have argued that "they
> started it" and since they were opennly attacked then they should ahve the
> right to reciprocate. Perhaps that is true but all it does is continue the
> downward spiral. It is a bigger person who decides to respond in private
> and not use the list to support their own position.
>
> If personal attacks (REGARDLESS OF HOW JUSTIFIED THEY ARE) were sent
> privately and kept off the list then people like Bernd would still be here.
> Perhaps this list can return to what it was. A fantastic forum created by
> Art to advance the science of meteorites and link enthusiasts around the
> world. Maybe we could even get bernd back.
>
> Sorry to have sermonized but I am just fed up.
>
> Mike Tettenborn
> Owen Sound, Ontario
>
>
>
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Received on Tue 20 Jan 2004 09:26:00 PM PST