[meteorite-list] Re:New Asteroid Threat Seen (Asteroid 2003 QQ47)
From: Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:29:50 2004 Message-ID: <3F576452.2090705_at_dlc.fi> --------------070101010802010906030104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Mark and others, to make critical, how to british media works, is not insulting, I have no need to insult anybody. But if the media works like a children, itīs dangerques to give this kind of toys to it. What I was wondering, was just that, this was the second time, when this circus started from the UK. take care, pekka s mark ford wrote: > Pekka , > > > > I happen to believe that the British media, generally reported the > facts quite well, they were generally quick to add that there was only > a [chance] of an impact (1 in 909,000 was widely quoted), and more > would be known in the next few days. I never heard anyone say it was > definite! I think they actually reported it how it was! > > > > They are right to report these potential dangers, (but I agree it > might be better if the astronomers waited a few days until they knew > further orbital data). > > > > (+ No need to insult the British the way you did!) > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pekka Savolainen [mailto:pekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi ] > Sent : 03 September 2003 18:40 > To: MrX3010_at_aol.com > Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Asteroid Threat Seen (Asteroid > 2003 QQ47) > > > > > To give out false information is just a way to find great "sensations", > to wait a day and give the right information is ok. This case was just > the same like an year ago from the british "astronomers". Donīt wonder, > 40% of british people belive in the consspiracy in the death of the > princess > of Wales . > > The line of NASA is a the correct way to inform about this possibility. I > know, there has been bigger hits, and there will be bigger hits in the > future. > > I live 4 kilometers from Suvasvesi impact-structure, and because > of that also my kids know, there has been bigger hits and there will be > bigger hits in the future. > > But the way press and news handled this item is just a way to get more > sold and more watchers, this is immoral and makes only damage. > > take care, > > pekka > > > > MrX3010_at_aol.com <mailto:MrX3010@aol.com> wrote: > > Yes, the press likes to play up things quite a bit. However lets not > shoot the messengers here just because we dont like the potential > message. The truth is we are in a cosmic shooting gallery and have > always been in one. There have been untold impacts on our world so > it's not as strange or out of the ordinary as some may believe. Yes, > people get used to hearing bad news then eventually blow it off, oh > well? If a major impactor were headed our way what could your average > Joe Shmoe do? Nothing so whether any of us choose to believe it or not > the threat is there and will be there. > > The thing I dont understand is the rational of the world in dealing > with this likely threat. We are now at a point in our technological > development to deal with a credible threat if given enough time to do > so. However it seems that its not worth it to the powers that be, > that fighting amongst ourselves is more important than trying to avert > the biggest threat to our world not our nation or our land, but our > entire planet. > > > Just my opinion, > Ron > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > >Pekka Savolainen > >Jokiharjuntie 4 > >FIN-71330 Rasala > >FINLAND > > > >+ 358 400 818 912 > > > >Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin > >Group Email Address: eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com <mailto:eurocoin@smartgroups.com> > > > -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com --------------070101010802010906030104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> </head> <body> <br> Hello, Mark and others,<br> <br> to make critical, how to british media works, is not insulting,<br> I have no need to insult anybody.<br> <br> But if the media works like a children, it´s dangerques to give<br> this kind of toys to it. What I was wondering, was just that,<br> this was the second time, when this circus started from the UK.<br> <br> take care,<br> <br> pekka s<br> <br> mark ford wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:6CE3EEEFE92F4B4085B0E086B2941B3101434B_at_s-southern01.s-southern.com"> <meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel="File-List" href="cid:filelist.xml_at_01C372DA.45F9ED70"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region" /=""></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place" /=""></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time" /=""></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="date" /=""></o:SmartTagType><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ _at_font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:553679495 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} pre {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font -family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} _at_page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:35.4pt; mso-footer-margin:35.4pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> <div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="SpellE"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> Pekka</span></font></span><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> ,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I happen to believe that the British media, generally reported the facts quite well, they were generally quick to add that there was only a [chance] of an impact (1 in 909,000 was widely quoted), and more would be known in the next few days. I never heard anyone say it was definite! I think they actually reported it how it was!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> They are right to report these potential dangers, (but I agree it might be better if the astronomers waited a few days until they knew further orbital data).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="GramE"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> (+ No need to insult the British the way you did!)</span></font></span><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "> -----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b> Pekka Savolainen [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:pekka.savolainen_at_dlc.fi">mailto:pekka.savolainen@dlc.fi</a><span class="GramE"> ] <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent</span></b></span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; "> :</span></b></span></font><st1:date month="9" day="3" year="2003"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "> 03 September 2003</span></font></st1:date><st1:time hour="18" minute="40"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "> 18:40</span></font></st1:time><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:MrX3010_at_aol.com">MrX3010@aol.com</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</span></b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b> Re: [meteorite-list] Re<span class="GramE">:New</span> Asteroid Threat Seen (Asteroid 2003 QQ47)</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br> To give out false information is just a way to find great "sensations",<br> to wait a day and give the right information is ok. This case was just<br> the same like an year ago from the british "astronomers". Don´t wonder,<br> 40% of british people belive in the consspiracy in the death of the princess<br> of </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place>Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region> .<br> <br> The line of NASA is a the correct way to inform about this possibility. I<br> know, there has been bigger hits, and there will be bigger hits in the <br> future. <br> <br> I live 4 kilometers from Suvasvesi impact-structure, and because<br> of that also my kids know, there has been bigger hits and there will be<br> bigger hits in the future. <br> <br> But the way press and news handled this item is just a way to get more <br> sold and more watchers, this is immoral and makes only damage.<br> <br> take care,<br> <br> pekka<br> <br> <br> <br> <a href="mailto:MrX3010_at_aol.com">MrX3010@aol.com</a> wrote:<br style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--><br style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial" family="SANSSERIF"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "> Yes, the press likes to play up things quite a bit. However lets not shoot the messengers here just because we dont like the potential message. The truth is we are in a cosmic shooting gallery and have always been in one. There have been untold impacts on our world so it's not as strange or out of the ordinary as some may believe. Yes, people get used to hearing bad news then eventually blow it off, oh well? If a major impactor were headed our way what could your average Joe Shmoe do? Nothing so whether any of us choose to believe it or not the threat is there and will be there. <br> <br> The thing I dont understand is the rational of the world in dealing with this likely threat. We are now at a point in our technological development to deal with a credible threat if given enough time to do so. However it seems that its not worth it to the powers that be, that fighting amongst ourselves is more important than trying to avert the biggest threat to our world not our nation or our land, but our entire planet.<br> <br> <br> Just my opinion,<br> Ron</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br style="mso-special-character: line-break"> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--><br style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Pekka Savolainen<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Jokiharjuntie 4<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">FIN-71330 Rasala<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><st1:country-region><st1:place><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">FINLAND</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">+ 358 400 818 912<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Group Home Page: <a href="http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin">http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre> <pre style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Group Email Address: <a href="mailto:eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com">eurocoin@smartgroups.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="$mailwrapcol">-- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin">http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin</a> Group Email Address: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eurocoin_at_smartgroups.com">eurocoin@smartgroups.com</a> </pre> <br> </body> </html> --------------070101010802010906030104--Received on Thu 04 Sep 2003 12:12:02 PM PDT |
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