[meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)

From: Grant L. Elliott <gle_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:37 2004
Message-ID: <002b01c39f45$ca422c40$35d0fea9_at_yourah1qbb56u1>

MIKE,
Tax returns are not public information-
GRANT ELLIOTT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com>
To: "Michael L Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)


> Well, in that case, We could look up all oyoiur
> information that is publicly available and post it
> here. taxes, etc etc etc. Just because it is public
> if you want to try, does not mean that it should be
> posted for all to see.
> Mike Farmer
> --- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
> > Jamie, Mike & all list members,
> > Any and all of you may be as offended as you
> > please, however,
> > Jamie has done absolutely nothing to violate
> > anyone's privacy. All
> > data he has provided IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. All he has
> > done is
> > organize it in a more comprehensive manner for the
> > meteorite
> > community. If you have an issue, it is with eBay,
> > not with Jamie.
> > Additionally, I find this information both
> > interesting and
> > informative and appreciate reading it. It IS one of
> > the many topics
> > appropriate to the list - it is a definite
> > indication of one level of the
> > meteorite market and, therefore, totally appropriate
> > for the list.
> > Those who feel otherwise can always use the
> > old "delete" key.
> > Other than my statement that I, personally,
> > enjoy having
> > this information provided, the statements contained
> > here are not a matter
> > of opinion, they are matters of fact. This is public
> > information and
> > appropriate for the list. People can have all the
> > "opinions" about
> > that they want, it still won't change the reality
> > that those are facts.
> > I can be of the opinion that 2 + 2 = 3. I can be
> > offended that 2 + 2 = 4.
> > That does not mean that 2 + 2 does not = 4.
> > Sincerely, Michael Blood
> >
> >
> > on 10/29/03 4:53 AM, Michael Farmer at
> > meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I just saw this in Prague. I am quite offended
> > by
> > > the public posting of my information. If you want
> > to
> > > take the time and do that research, ok, but making
> > it
> > > public here is no one's business. DO NOTY put me
> > in
> > > that information again. It might even be against
> > ebay
> > > policy. I will research that when I get home.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > > --- RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > >> Should this be considered a true invasion of
> > privacy
> > >> even if all the information that was used in the
> > >> analysis is available to anyone who wants to
> > obtain
> > >> it? It's not like this is confidential
> > information
> > >> being spewed without the persons consent. Or is
> > it?
> > >> : /
> > >>
> > >> -Ryan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Randy Mils
> > >> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:01 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Let me be the first to agree that this is an
> > >> invasion of privacy. This is also not the place
> > for
> > >> "ebay analysis". We have been there and done
> > that
> > >> with another "former list member"
> > >>
> > >> Randy
> > >>
> > >>> From: Jamie Stephens
> > >>> To: Meteorite List
> > >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] EBay analysis
> > >> (preliminary)
> > >>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:06:43 -0600
> > >>>
> > >>> Listees,
> > >>>
> > >>> On the dealer/collector spectrum, I'm at the
> > >> collector end.
> > >>> I haven't yet sold any meteorites (but I do need
> > to
> > >> thin
> > >>> out my collection a bit). Anyway, I am
> > interested
> > >> in the
> > >>> meteorite market dynamics. It's fun.
> > >>>
> > >>> Targeting Ebay, I exercised some software tools
> > I
> > >> have. I
> > >>> looked at completed "Meteorites, Tektites"
> > category
> > >> completed
> > >>> sales from 2003-10-10 to 2003-10-25 (the data
> > that
> > >> Ebay
> > >>> keeps easily available). Here are some
> > interesting
> > >> stats:
> > >>>
> > >>> [CAVEAT: I haven't thoroughly validated these
> > >> results. Please
> > >>> consider them preliminary.]
> > >>>
> > >>> Items ended: 2036
> > >>> Items sold: 1035
> > >>> Number of unique sellers: 169
> > >>> Number of unique winners: 413
> > >>> Number of unique bidders: 815
> > >>> Total sold: $57,951.60
> > >>> Most expensive item sold: $6,736.00
> > >>>
> > >>> More data below. I plan to start collecting data
> > >> over time to
> > >>> see trends. If you're interested in the result,
> > let
> > >> me know.
> > >>> I'll post if there's sufficient interest. I'm
> > >> mostly interested
> > >>> in the "demand side". Are more people bidding on
> > >> meteorites?
> > >>> What else are they bidding on? Etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> Of course, I'm only looking at EBay -- as
> > opposed
> > >> to the large
> > >>> number of direct deals that I can't see.
> > >>>
> > >>> Some folks might gripe that I'm invading
> > privacy.
> > >> Yes? If
> > >>> so, lemme know. I can obfuscate identities. But
> > >> folks can
> > >>> still figure out the identities from the EBay
> > data.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Please remember the caveat above, and send my
> > any
> > >> comments
> > >>> or questions.
> > >>>
> > >>> --Jamie Stephens
> > >>>
> > >>> Top 20 sellers making the most money:
> > >>>
> > >>> seller | # trans | usd
> > >>> -------------------------------+-------+-------
> > >>> cometshop | 47 | 10634
> > >>> finmet | 70 | 7436
> > >>> meteoritehunter%40comcast.net | 80 | 4584
> > >>> meteoritemarina | 17 | 3619
> > >>> a.chondrite | 6 | 2145
> > >>> mr-meteorite | 6 | 2132
> > >>> flattoprocks | 30 | 1956
> > >>> meteoritelab | 108 | 1937
> > >>> katy2kary | 35 | 1710
> > >>> meteoritehunters | 47 | 1374
> > >>> 17jack-anthony | 10 | 1141
> > >>> meteoriten | 8 | 1044
> > >>> illinoismeteorites | 12 | 1025
> > >>> paolo2000 | 7 | 1018
> > >>> 3281958 | 2 | 1005
> > >>> meteoriteusa.com | 22 | 940
> > >>> meteorflash | 79 | 808
> > >>> svassiliev | 18 | 736
> > >>> meteoritesandmore | 63 | 628
> > >>> litig8nshark | 6 | 516
> > >>> (20 rows)
> > >>>
> > >>> Top 20 bidders spending the most money:
> > >>>
> > >>> bidder | usd | wins
> > >>> ---------------------+------+------
> > >>> nickelironmonkey | 6787 | 2
> > >>> dbgbogey | 2065 | 2
> > >>> cat_berlin | 1848 | 3
> > >>> peterutas%40aol.com | 1630 | 1
> > >>> aggiemwd | 1525 | 1
> > >>> pangeogem | 1447 | 3
> > >>> meteorpassion | 1032 | 16
> > >>> meteoritoeg | 1009 | 21
> > >>> pat11260 | 978 | 7
> > >>> tdaulton | 961 | 2
> > >>> pema9 | 824 | 11
> > >>> 17jack-anthony | 817 | 10
> >
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>
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