[meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)

From: Mark Miconi <mam602_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:37 2004
Message-ID: <00e301c39fe8$2e0ae1c0$d7e16a44_at_ph.cox.net>

Out of the electronic darkness echos a voice of reason. I have got news for
all of you...there are companies compiling this data and selling it to ebay
sellers. I received an offer in my email about a month ago. They offer
several levels of data, you pick the categories and they supply the data.

I do not sell meteorites...we do antiques, collectibles and other stuff. You
can be sure that I am watch every dealer I have identified that is in the
Phoenix area. Many of them I am bidding against at local auctions, not too
mention estate sales. I also watch the heavy hitters on certain high end
items to see the current price trends...who is selling what and who is
buying at what price. In antique cut glass item prices can fluctuate
$100.00-$300.00 in only weeks. Nothing like paying $300.00 for a piece that
was selling for $800.00 only to find that this week/month it will only fetch
$400.00. Not that $100.00 profit is bad...but tying up $300.00 to make
$100.00 is not the way to make money.

What is everyone so uptight about is beyond me. Seems like a perfect waste
of stress time.

Again...this is my opinion...I am a privacy freak, but this wouldn't and
doesn't bother me.

Mark M.
Phoenix AZ

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net>
To: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com>; RYAN PAWELSKI
<yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)


> Jamie, Mike & all list members,
> Any and all of you may be as offended as you please, however,
> Jamie has done absolutely nothing to violate anyone's privacy. All
> data he has provided IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. All he has done is
> organize it in a more comprehensive manner for the meteorite
> community. If you have an issue, it is with eBay, not with Jamie.
> Additionally, I find this information both interesting and
> informative and appreciate reading it. It IS one of the many topics
> appropriate to the list - it is a definite indication of one level of the
> meteorite market and, therefore, totally appropriate for the list.
> Those who feel otherwise can always use the old "delete" key.
> Other than my statement that I, personally, enjoy having
> this information provided, the statements contained here are not a matter
> of opinion, they are matters of fact. This is public information and
> appropriate for the list. People can have all the "opinions" about
> that they want, it still won't change the reality that those are facts.
> I can be of the opinion that 2 + 2 = 3. I can be offended that 2 + 2 = 4.
> That does not mean that 2 + 2 does not = 4.
> Sincerely, Michael Blood
>
>
> on 10/29/03 4:53 AM, Michael Farmer at meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Hi, I just saw this in Prague. I am quite offended by
> > the public posting of my information. If you want to
> > take the time and do that research, ok, but making it
> > public here is no one's business. DO NOTY put me in
> > that information again. It might even be against ebay
> > policy. I will research that when I get home.
> > Mike Farmer
> > --- RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> Should this be considered a true invasion of privacy
> >> even if all the information that was used in the
> >> analysis is available to anyone who wants to obtain
> >> it? It's not like this is confidential information
> >> being spewed without the persons consent. Or is it?
> >> : /
> >>
> >> -Ryan
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Randy Mils
> >> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:01 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me be the first to agree that this is an
> >> invasion of privacy. This is also not the place for
> >> "ebay analysis". We have been there and done that
> >> with another "former list member"
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
> >>> From: Jamie Stephens
> >>> To: Meteorite List
> >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] EBay analysis
> >> (preliminary)
> >>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:06:43 -0600
> >>>
> >>> Listees,
> >>>
> >>> On the dealer/collector spectrum, I'm at the
> >> collector end.
> >>> I haven't yet sold any meteorites (but I do need to
> >> thin
> >>> out my collection a bit). Anyway, I am interested
> >> in the
> >>> meteorite market dynamics. It's fun.
> >>>
> >>> Targeting Ebay, I exercised some software tools I
> >> have. I
> >>> looked at completed "Meteorites, Tektites" category
> >> completed
> >>> sales from 2003-10-10 to 2003-10-25 (the data that
> >> Ebay
> >>> keeps easily available). Here are some interesting
> >> stats:
> >>>
> >>> [CAVEAT: I haven't thoroughly validated these
> >> results. Please
> >>> consider them preliminary.]
> >>>
> >>> Items ended: 2036
> >>> Items sold: 1035
> >>> Number of unique sellers: 169
> >>> Number of unique winners: 413
> >>> Number of unique bidders: 815
> >>> Total sold: $57,951.60
> >>> Most expensive item sold: $6,736.00
> >>>
> >>> More data below. I plan to start collecting data
> >> over time to
> >>> see trends. If you're interested in the result, let
> >> me know.
> >>> I'll post if there's sufficient interest. I'm
> >> mostly interested
> >>> in the "demand side". Are more people bidding on
> >> meteorites?
> >>> What else are they bidding on? Etc.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, I'm only looking at EBay -- as opposed
> >> to the large
> >>> number of direct deals that I can't see.
> >>>
> >>> Some folks might gripe that I'm invading privacy.
> >> Yes? If
> >>> so, lemme know. I can obfuscate identities. But
> >> folks can
> >>> still figure out the identities from the EBay data.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Please remember the caveat above, and send my any
> >> comments
> >>> or questions.
> >>>
> >>> --Jamie Stephens
> >>>
> >>> Top 20 sellers making the most money:
> >>>
> >>> seller | # trans | usd
> >>> -------------------------------+-------+-------
> >>> cometshop | 47 | 10634
> >>> finmet | 70 | 7436
> >>> meteoritehunter%40comcast.net | 80 | 4584
> >>> meteoritemarina | 17 | 3619
> >>> a.chondrite | 6 | 2145
> >>> mr-meteorite | 6 | 2132
> >>> flattoprocks | 30 | 1956
> >>> meteoritelab | 108 | 1937
> >>> katy2kary | 35 | 1710
> >>> meteoritehunters | 47 | 1374
> >>> 17jack-anthony | 10 | 1141
> >>> meteoriten | 8 | 1044
> >>> illinoismeteorites | 12 | 1025
> >>> paolo2000 | 7 | 1018
> >>> 3281958 | 2 | 1005
> >>> meteoriteusa.com | 22 | 940
> >>> meteorflash | 79 | 808
> >>> svassiliev | 18 | 736
> >>> meteoritesandmore | 63 | 628
> >>> litig8nshark | 6 | 516
> >>> (20 rows)
> >>>
> >>> Top 20 bidders spending the most money:
> >>>
> >>> bidder | usd | wins
> >>> ---------------------+------+------
> >>> nickelironmonkey | 6787 | 2
> >>> dbgbogey | 2065 | 2
> >>> cat_berlin | 1848 | 3
> >>> peterutas%40aol.com | 1630 | 1
> >>> aggiemwd | 1525 | 1
> >>> pangeogem | 1447 | 3
> >>> meteorpassion | 1032 | 16
> >>> meteoritoeg | 1009 | 21
> >>> pat11260 | 978 | 7
> >>> tdaulton | 961 | 2
> >>> pema9 | 824 | 11
> >>> 17jack-anthony | 817 | 10
> >>> starsandrocks | 795 | 4
> >>> sandro1921 | 770 | 1
> >>> alwaysdreaming.com | 760 | 1
> >>> 3281958 | 732 | 6
> >>> illinoismeteorites | 632 | 14
> >>> centrosaurusred | 585 | 1
> >>> wols1 | 580 | 2
> >>> newforwu | 547 | 9
> >>> (20 rows)
> >>>
> >>> Top 20 EBay "traders", those buying and selling on
> >> EBay:
> >>>
> >>> seller |net usd| wins | sells
> >>> ----------------------+-------+------+-------
> >>> meteoritesandmore | 593 | 3 | 63
> >>> docdavev45%40aol.com | 429 | 1 | 1
> >>> illinoismeteorites | 393 | 14 | 12
> >>> 17jack-anthony | 324 | 10 | 10
> >>> 3281958 | 273 | 6 | 2
> >>> jacinth2 | 248 | 2 | 14
> >>> phenomenologist | 22 | 3 | 4
> >>> birago123456 | 9 | 2 | 3
> >>> tigeroakantiques | 0 | 2 | 2
> >>> mi-meteorites | -51 | 2 | 3
> >>> jnbran | -52 | 1 | 6
> >>> driveahumlv | -60 | 2 | 2
> >>> pardelmops | -449 | 3 | 1
> >>> meteor4911 | -469 | 1 | 3
> >>> nickelironmonkey | -6738 | 2 | 1
> >>> (15 rows)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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