[meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)

From: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:37 2004
Message-ID: <20031030204716.23734.qmail_at_web20909.mail.yahoo.com>

Michael, Let me make this very clear. I DO NOT want
people posting for all to see the dollar amounts of
the sum of the items I sell on ebay for any particular
time. That is my choice, RESPECT IT. I will contact
ebay and begin investigations to see if it is illegal
to do so, end of story.
On another note, I am in Munich now for the show,
already spent a couople hours there today, tomorrow
the public show opens, where I will be selling at Hans
Kosers booth. I can be found in Hall 5 Stand A5.512.
That is the middle building. There are some great
meteorites here. Prices are out of this world though,
especially with the USD$$$$ so weak against the Euro.

Anyway, thanks, and please please do as I ask, and
leave me out of any public postings of my ebay sales.
Mike Farmer
--- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
> Hi Mike & all,
> That would be ok with me.
> I never have understood why people are so
> shy....
> I know a lot of people got freaked when they
> found out you can
> look up anyone and get a satellite photo of their
> home. I think it's a gas.
> What's the prob? If someone is plotting to steal
> from you, they can
> certainly do it WITHOUT that photo. I looked up most
> of the people
> I care about when I discovered that little trick.
> Especially fun for
> people I hadn't visited since they last moved....
> such as my daughter.
> Anyway, if it is public information, it is
> public information. I
> just don't get it.
> Anyway, I thought everyone decided the eBay
> data was just dandy
> without identifying each and every individual - so,
> what is this
> REALLY about???
> Best wishes, Michael
>
> on 10/30/03 9:40 AM, Michael Farmer at
> meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Well, in that case, We could look up all oyoiur
> > information that is publicly available and post it
> > here. taxes, etc etc etc. Just because it is
> public
> > if you want to try, does not mean that it should
> be
> > posted for all to see.
> > Mike Farmer
> > --- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
> >> Jamie, Mike & all list members,
> >> Any and all of you may be as offended as you
> >> please, however,
> >> Jamie has done absolutely nothing to violate
> >> anyone's privacy. All
> >> data he has provided IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. All he
> has
> >> done is
> >> organize it in a more comprehensive manner for
> the
> >> meteorite
> >> community. If you have an issue, it is with eBay,
> >> not with Jamie.
> >> Additionally, I find this information both
> >> interesting and
> >> informative and appreciate reading it. It IS one
> of
> >> the many topics
> >> appropriate to the list - it is a definite
> >> indication of one level of the
> >> meteorite market and, therefore, totally
> appropriate
> >> for the list.
> >> Those who feel otherwise can always use the
> >> old "delete" key.
> >> Other than my statement that I, personally,
> >> enjoy having
> >> this information provided, the statements
> contained
> >> here are not a matter
> >> of opinion, they are matters of fact. This is
> public
> >> information and
> >> appropriate for the list. People can have all the
> >> "opinions" about
> >> that they want, it still won't change the reality
> >> that those are facts.
> >> I can be of the opinion that 2 + 2 = 3. I can be
> >> offended that 2 + 2 = 4.
> >> That does not mean that 2 + 2 does not = 4.
> >> Sincerely, Michael Blood
> >>
> >>
> >> on 10/29/03 4:53 AM, Michael Farmer at
> >> meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi, I just saw this in Prague. I am quite
> offended
> >> by
> >>> the public posting of my information. If you
> want
> >> to
> >>> take the time and do that research, ok, but
> making
> >> it
> >>> public here is no one's business. DO NOTY put me
> >> in
> >>> that information again. It might even be against
> >> ebay
> >>> policy. I will research that when I get home.
> >>> Mike Farmer
> >>> --- RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Should this be considered a true invasion of
> >> privacy
> >>>> even if all the information that was used in
> the
> >>>> analysis is available to anyone who wants to
> >> obtain
> >>>> it? It's not like this is confidential
> >> information
> >>>> being spewed without the persons consent. Or is
> >> it?
> >>>> : /
> >>>>
> >>>> -Ryan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: Randy Mils
> >>>> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:01 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me be the first to agree that this is an
> >>>> invasion of privacy. This is also not the
> place
> >> for
> >>>> "ebay analysis". We have been there and done
> >> that
> >>>> with another "former list member"
> >>>>
> >>>> Randy
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Jamie Stephens
> >>>>> To: Meteorite List
> >>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] EBay analysis
> >>>> (preliminary)
> >>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:06:43 -0600
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Listees,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the dealer/collector spectrum, I'm at the
> >>>> collector end.
> >>>>> I haven't yet sold any meteorites (but I do
> need
> >> to
> >>>> thin
> >>>>> out my collection a bit). Anyway, I am
> >> interested
> >>>> in the
> >>>>> meteorite market dynamics. It's fun.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Targeting Ebay, I exercised some software
> tools
> >> I
> >>>> have. I
> >>>>> looked at completed "Meteorites, Tektites"
> >> category
> >>>> completed
> >>>>> sales from 2003-10-10 to 2003-10-25 (the data
> >> that
> >>>> Ebay
> >>>>> keeps easily available). Here are some
> >> interesting
> >>>> stats:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [CAVEAT: I haven't thoroughly validated these
> >>>> results. Please
> >>>>> consider them preliminary.]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Items ended: 2036
> >>>>> Items sold: 1035
> >>>>> Number of unique sellers: 169
> >>>>> Number of unique winners: 413
> >>>>> Number of unique bidders: 815
> >>>>> Total sold: $57,951.60
> >>>>> Most expensive item sold: $6,736.00
> >>>>>
> >>>>> More data below. I plan to start collecting
> data
> >>>> over time to
> >>>>> see trends. If you're interested in the
> result,
> >> let
> >>>> me know.
> >>>>> I'll post if there's sufficient interest. I'm
> >>>> mostly interested
> >>>>> in the "demand side". Are more people bidding
> on
> >>>> meteorites?
> >>>>> What else are they bidding on? Etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course, I'm only looking at EBay -- as
> >> opposed
> >>>> to the large
> >>>>> number of direct deals that I can't see.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some folks might gripe that I'm invading
> >> privacy.
> >>>> Yes? If
> >>>>> so, lemme know. I can obfuscate identities.
> But
>
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Received on Thu 30 Oct 2003 03:47:16 PM PST