[meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)

From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:36 2004
Message-ID: <BBC6A708.C9B5%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Hi Mike & all,
        That would be ok with me.
        I never have understood why people are so shy....
        I know a lot of people got freaked when they found out you can
look up anyone and get a satellite photo of their home. I think it's a gas.
What's the prob? If someone is plotting to steal from you, they can
certainly do it WITHOUT that photo. I looked up most of the people
I care about when I discovered that little trick. Especially fun for
people I hadn't visited since they last moved.... such as my daughter.
        Anyway, if it is public information, it is public information. I
just don't get it.
        Anyway, I thought everyone decided the eBay data was just dandy
without identifying each and every individual - so, what is this
REALLY about???
        Best wishes, Michael

on 10/30/03 9:40 AM, Michael Farmer at meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:

> Well, in that case, We could look up all oyoiur
> information that is publicly available and post it
> here. taxes, etc etc etc. Just because it is public
> if you want to try, does not mean that it should be
> posted for all to see.
> Mike Farmer
> --- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
>> Jamie, Mike & all list members,
>> Any and all of you may be as offended as you
>> please, however,
>> Jamie has done absolutely nothing to violate
>> anyone's privacy. All
>> data he has provided IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. All he has
>> done is
>> organize it in a more comprehensive manner for the
>> meteorite
>> community. If you have an issue, it is with eBay,
>> not with Jamie.
>> Additionally, I find this information both
>> interesting and
>> informative and appreciate reading it. It IS one of
>> the many topics
>> appropriate to the list - it is a definite
>> indication of one level of the
>> meteorite market and, therefore, totally appropriate
>> for the list.
>> Those who feel otherwise can always use the
>> old "delete" key.
>> Other than my statement that I, personally,
>> enjoy having
>> this information provided, the statements contained
>> here are not a matter
>> of opinion, they are matters of fact. This is public
>> information and
>> appropriate for the list. People can have all the
>> "opinions" about
>> that they want, it still won't change the reality
>> that those are facts.
>> I can be of the opinion that 2 + 2 = 3. I can be
>> offended that 2 + 2 = 4.
>> That does not mean that 2 + 2 does not = 4.
>> Sincerely, Michael Blood
>>
>>
>> on 10/29/03 4:53 AM, Michael Farmer at
>> meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I just saw this in Prague. I am quite offended
>> by
>>> the public posting of my information. If you want
>> to
>>> take the time and do that research, ok, but making
>> it
>>> public here is no one's business. DO NOTY put me
>> in
>>> that information again. It might even be against
>> ebay
>>> policy. I will research that when I get home.
>>> Mike Farmer
>>> --- RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> Should this be considered a true invasion of
>> privacy
>>>> even if all the information that was used in the
>>>> analysis is available to anyone who wants to
>> obtain
>>>> it? It's not like this is confidential
>> information
>>>> being spewed without the persons consent. Or is
>> it?
>>>> : /
>>>>
>>>> -Ryan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Randy Mils
>>>> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:01 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let me be the first to agree that this is an
>>>> invasion of privacy. This is also not the place
>> for
>>>> "ebay analysis". We have been there and done
>> that
>>>> with another "former list member"
>>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>>
>>>>> From: Jamie Stephens
>>>>> To: Meteorite List
>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] EBay analysis
>>>> (preliminary)
>>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:06:43 -0600
>>>>>
>>>>> Listees,
>>>>>
>>>>> On the dealer/collector spectrum, I'm at the
>>>> collector end.
>>>>> I haven't yet sold any meteorites (but I do need
>> to
>>>> thin
>>>>> out my collection a bit). Anyway, I am
>> interested
>>>> in the
>>>>> meteorite market dynamics. It's fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> Targeting Ebay, I exercised some software tools
>> I
>>>> have. I
>>>>> looked at completed "Meteorites, Tektites"
>> category
>>>> completed
>>>>> sales from 2003-10-10 to 2003-10-25 (the data
>> that
>>>> Ebay
>>>>> keeps easily available). Here are some
>> interesting
>>>> stats:
>>>>>
>>>>> [CAVEAT: I haven't thoroughly validated these
>>>> results. Please
>>>>> consider them preliminary.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Items ended: 2036
>>>>> Items sold: 1035
>>>>> Number of unique sellers: 169
>>>>> Number of unique winners: 413
>>>>> Number of unique bidders: 815
>>>>> Total sold: $57,951.60
>>>>> Most expensive item sold: $6,736.00
>>>>>
>>>>> More data below. I plan to start collecting data
>>>> over time to
>>>>> see trends. If you're interested in the result,
>> let
>>>> me know.
>>>>> I'll post if there's sufficient interest. I'm
>>>> mostly interested
>>>>> in the "demand side". Are more people bidding on
>>>> meteorites?
>>>>> What else are they bidding on? Etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I'm only looking at EBay -- as
>> opposed
>>>> to the large
>>>>> number of direct deals that I can't see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some folks might gripe that I'm invading
>> privacy.
>>>> Yes? If
>>>>> so, lemme know. I can obfuscate identities. But
>>>> folks can
>>>>> still figure out the identities from the EBay
>> data.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please remember the caveat above, and send my
>> any
>>>> comments
>>>>> or questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Jamie Stephens
>>>>>
>>>>> Top 20 sellers making the most money:
>>>>>
>>>>> seller | # trans | usd
>>>>> -------------------------------+-------+-------
>>>>> cometshop | 47 | 10634
>>>>> finmet | 70 | 7436
>>>>> meteoritehunter%40comcast.net | 80 | 4584
>>>>> meteoritemarina | 17 | 3619
>>>>> a.chondrite | 6 | 2145
>>>>> mr-meteorite | 6 | 2132
>>>>> flattoprocks | 30 | 1956
>>>>> meteoritelab | 108 | 1937
>>>>> katy2kary | 35 | 1710
>>>>> meteoritehunters | 47 | 1374
>>>>> 17jack-anthony | 10 | 1141
>>>>> meteoriten | 8 | 1044
>>>>> illinoismeteorites | 12 | 1025
>>>>> paolo2000 | 7 | 1018
>>>>> 3281958 | 2 | 1005
>>>>> meteoriteusa.com | 22 | 940
>>>>> meteorflash | 79 | 808
>>>>> svassiliev | 18 | 736
>>>>> meteoritesandmore | 63 | 628
>>>>> litig8nshark | 6 | 516
>>>>> (20 rows)
>>>>>
>>>>> Top 20 bidders spending the most money:
>>>>>
>>>>> bidder | usd | wins
>>>>> ---------------------+------+------
>>>>> nickelironmonkey | 6787 | 2
>>>>> dbgbogey | 2065 | 2
>>>>> cat_berlin | 1848 | 3
>>>>> peterutas%40aol.com | 1630 | 1
>>>>> aggiemwd | 1525 | 1
>>>>> pangeogem | 1447 | 3
>>>>> meteorpassion | 1032 | 16
>>>>> meteoritoeg | 1009 | 21
>>>>> pat11260 | 978 | 7
>>>>> tdaulton | 961 | 2
>>>>> pema9 | 824 | 11
>>>>> 17jack-anthony | 817 | 10
>>
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