[meteorite-list] eBay policemen?
From: Dave Harris <entropydave_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:25 2004 Message-ID: <3F870E0E.000045.03764_at_D500> --------------Boundary-00=_YJ4KAMZ4G6G000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_YJ4K5X34G6G000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_YJ4K5X34G6G000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personally and practically, a 2kg meteorite of any type usually I regard = as=20 huge' mainly because it would have cost me a lot of money - I have been collecting for a few years and I don't have anything approaching 2kg in s= ize so for me 'huge' is an appropriate adjective!=0D Also, I would, if I were that buyer, look around so see what else was on offer in order go guesstimate the correct sort of price, and decide that = if it is good value and looks good then ok, it may not be a 3/4 ton Otumba a= s in the NHM (London) but for domestic collections it is pretty substantial= =2E=20 It is all relative!=0D But I agree with Tom's last statement that the perhaps the seller ought t= o check out what 'huge' is relative to the rock he is selling. I personall= y would regard 0.25g of Calcalong Creek as 'huge'!=0D =0D =0D Research, that is the key, both for buyers and sellers!=0D =0D thanks for your indulgence=0D =0D =0D dave=0D =0D =0D IMCA#0092 =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Tom aka James Knudson=0D Date: Friday, October 10, 2003 20:45:46=0D To: Howard Wu; Dave Harris; metlist=0D Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen?=0D =0D Hello List, Please correct me if I am wrong! Please try to be polite when doing so! : ) =0D I think it hurts us all when some one uses misleading tactics to sell meteorites. Why do I think that? I will tell you. Ebay is by far the best= , cheapest and easiest place to get meteorites. Lets say someone new goes = on ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as "HUGE" and looks around and ther= e is no Campo larger on ebay at the time, the buyer goes back to the auctio= n and finds a IMCA link, clicks on it and learns what a honest bunch of sellers IMCA members are. The new buyer even clicks on a few links and do= es not see a Campo that big on any of the sites. The buyer will feel like he= is getting a Huge Campo at a great price. He goes back to the auction and us= es Buy it now. He gets it and is thrilled with this Huge Campo. =0D He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay to look around. This time he fi= nds a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? So what is a buyer to think? DON"T TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that whole bunch are full of #&%$(# !!= !!! =0D Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and it turns out to be slag! O= h well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! You can not trust anyone! =0D I do know, one important part of selling, is you need buyers. If no one wants to buy meteorites, no one can sell them!!! =0D I live in AZ, and it is still summer here, still in the high 90's, to ho= t for GB, so all my meteorite hunting is done on ebay! I am just telling yo= u all of my hunting adventures. : ) =0D All I am trying to get across is that honesty is the best policy. If you have a 2k Holbrook, tell people it is huge!!! If you have a 2k campo, say= it is nice sized or something, save HUGE for the huge Campos! =0D Thanks, Tom=0D wondering if I should be the proudest member of the IMCA 6168=0D ----- Original Message ----- =0D From: Howard Wu =0D To: Dave Harris ; metlist =0D Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:13 AM=0D Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay policemen?=0D =0D =0D I joined this list in part so I wouldn't be so stupid about faux meteorit= es or over priced scams.=0D =0D Howard Wu=0D =0D Dave Harris <entropydave_at_ntlworld.com> wrote:=0D Hi,=0D I have to throw in my 2g's worth here - seems that some people on the lis= t=0D spend too much of their time trawling eBay looking for auctions to critic= ise=0D and debunk and publish their 'findings' to the list.=0D Fine in principle, but we are not here to police eBay - I think that "Cav= eat=0D Emptor" should prevail here. If anyone is naive or stupid enough to spend= =0D thousands of bucks on a so-called 'meteorite' and from a supplier who doe= sn=0D t sport the IMCA label then so be it. =0D =0D Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs very funny and I am=0D quite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but on the whole these=0D auctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, desperate and not really=0D funny.=0D =0D Seems to me that every Metlist digest I get now has a "look at this eBay=0D auction..." gleefully pointing out some stupid ad - Can I suggest that=0D perhaps one could spend one's time better employed?=0D =0D =0D frustratingly frustrated!=0D =0D =0D dave=0D =0D =0D IMCA #0092=0D =0D ______________________________________________=0D Meteorite-list mailing list=0D Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=0D http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=0D =0D =0D Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger=0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_YJ4K5X34G6G000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <META content=3D"IncrediMail 1.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <!--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart> <IncrdiX-Info> <X-FID>PLAINTXT-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000</X-FID> <X-FVER></X-FVER> <X-CNT>;</X-CNT> </IncrdiX-Info> <IncrdiXMLRemarkEnd--> </HEAD> <BODY style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px= 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=3D#ffffff background=3D"" scroll=3D= yes ORGYPOS=3D"0" X-FVER=3D"3.0"> <TABLE id=3DINCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D2 width=3D"100= %" border=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=3DINCREDITEXTREGION style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-F= AMILY: Arial" width=3D"100%"> <DIV>Personally and practically, a 2kg meteorite of any type usually I re= gard as 'huge' mainly because it would have cost me a lot of money -= I have been collecting for a few years and I don't have anything approac= hing 2kg in size, so for me 'huge' is an appropriate adjective!</DIV> <DIV>Also, I would, if I were that buyer, look around so see wh= at else was on offer in order go guesstimate the correct sort of price, a= nd decide that if it is good value and looks good then ok, it may not be = a 3/4 ton Otumba as in the NHM (London) but for domestic collections it i= s pretty substantial. It is all relative!</DIV> <DIV>But I agree with Tom's last statement that the perhaps the sell= er ought to check out what 'huge' is relative to the rock he is sell= ing. I personally would regard 0.25g of Calcalong Creek as 'hu= ge'!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Research, that is the key, both for buyers and sellers!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thanks for your indulgence</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>dave</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IMCA#0092 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=3DIncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></D= IV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=3Dreceivestrings> <DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href=3D"m= ailto:knudson911_at_frontiernet.net">Tom aka James Knudson</A></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Friday, Octo= ber 10, 2003 20:45:46</DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href=3D"mai= lto:freewu2000_at_yahoo.com">Howard Wu</A>; <A href=3D"mailto:entropydave@nt= lworld.com">Dave Harris</A>; <A href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritece= ntral.com">metlist</A></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [mete= orite-list] eBay policemen?</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello List, Please correct me if I am wrong! Please t= ry to be polite when doing so! : ) </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I think it hurts us all when some one uses misl= eading tactics to sell meteorites. Why do I think that? I will tell you. = Ebay is by far the best, cheapest and easiest place to get meteorites.&nb= sp; Lets say someone new goes on ebay and sees a 2000g Campo described as= "HUGE" and looks around and there is no Campo larger on ebay at the time= , the buyer goes back to the auction and finds a IMCA link, clicks on it = and learns what a honest bunch of sellers IMCA members are. The new buyer= even clicks on a few links and does not see a Campo that big on any of t= he sites. The buyer will feel like he is getting a Huge Campo at a great = price. He goes back to the auction and uses Buy it now. He gets it and is= thrilled with this Huge Campo. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> He gets the "BUG" and goes back to Ebay t= o look around. This time he finds a 94lb Campo, but his campo was huge? S= o what is a buyer to think? DON"T TRUST THEM DISHONEST IMCA MEMBERS, that= whole bunch are full of #&%$(# !!!!! </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Now what, buy from none IMCA members, OK, and i= t turns out to be slag! Oh well, this meteorite collecting thing sucks! Y= ou can not trust anyone! </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I do know, one important part of selling, is yo= u need buyers. If no one wants to buy meteorites, no one can sell them!!!= </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> I live in AZ, and it is still summer here, stil= l in the high 90's, to hot for GB, so all my meteorite hunting is done on= ebay! I am just telling you all of my hunting adventures. : ) </FONT></D= IV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> All I am trying to get across is that honesty i= s the best policy. If you have a 2k Holbrook, tell people it is huge!!! I= f you have a 2k campo, say it is nice sized or something, save HUGE for t= he huge Campos! </FONT></DIV> <DIV>Thanks, Tom<BR>wondering if I should be the proudest member of the I= MCA 6168</DIV> <DIV style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000= 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; rem_MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><= B>From:</B> <A title=3Dfreewu2000_at_yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:freewu2000@yah= oo.com">Howard Wu</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dentropydave_at_ntlworl= d.com href=3D"mailto:entropydave_at_ntlworld.com">Dave Harris</A> ; <A title= =3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list@mete= oritecentral.com">metlist</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 10, 2003 11:= 13 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] eBay= policemen?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I joined this list in part so I wouldn't be so stupid about faux met= eorites or over priced scams.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>Dave Harris <<A href=3D"mailto:entropydave= _at_ntlworld.com">entropydave@ntlworld.com</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <DIV class=3Dreplbq style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid; rem_MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">Hi,<BR>I have to throw in my 2g's worth here= - seems that some people on the list<BR>spend too much of their time tra= wling eBay looking for auctions to criticise<BR>and debunk and publish th= eir 'findings' to the list.<BR>Fine in principle, but we are not here to = police eBay - I think that "Caveat<BR>Emptor" should prevail here. If any= one is naive or stupid enough to spend<BR>thousands of bucks on a so-call= ed 'meteorite' and from a supplier who doesn<BR>t sport the IMCA label th= en so be it. <BR><BR>Like a lot of people, I find the exceptional ripoffs= very funny and I am<BR>quite happy to have my attention drawn to it, but= on the whole these<BR>auctions for faux meteorites are all a bit sad, de= sperate and not really<BR>funny.<BR><BR>Seems to me that every Metlist di= gest I get now has a "look at this eBay<BR>auction..." gleefully pointing= out some stupid ad - Can I suggest that<BR>perhaps one could spend one's= time better employed?<BR><BR><BR>frustratingly frustrated!<BR><BR><BR>da= ve<BR><BR><BR>IMCA #0092<BR><BR>_________________________________________= _____<BR>Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.c= om<BR>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</DIV> <P> <HR SIZE=3D1> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Want to chat instantly with your online frien= ds? <A href=3D"http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http:/= /uk.messenger.yahoo.com/"><B>Get the FREE Yahoo! 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