[meteorite-list] Re: Fwd: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2175659927

From: walter branch <branchw_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:42 2004
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>I guess I will end up having to end the auction before it is all over

In other words, "I've been caught, and I have to figure out a way to get
myself out of this mess."

The NEMS letter and photos? Classic bait and switch...

-Walter
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www.branchmeteorites.com


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Sharkkb8_at_aol.com=20
  To: steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com=20
  Cc: staff_at_meteorlab.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Fwd: Re: Question for seller -- Item =
#2175659927




  Steve Schoner:



    It alarming to me, as it uses a letter from an
    standing IMCA member to "authenticate" items that are
    clearly, from the photos shown, NOT Canyon Diablo
    meteorites. The seller even posts the authentication
    letter in the auction picture pages.



  Hi, Steve -

  I think any number of IMCA members and listees are on this guy's case, =
myself included. Just for the record, his latest note back to me is =
below.

         Gregory
  _____________________________________________

  Hi Gregory, I can't believe the amount of people that insist that this =
is not a meteorite, are that I would use Russ Kempton as a way of =
selling these specimens. I sent remnants of these specimens and he =
evaluated them and returned the letter that I have posted on ebay. I =
assure you as a retired metals inspector for the DOD who worked on =
Nuclear Submarines for over 20+ years, my claim is as states. And I =
assure you I fear not any problems, as I know the claims that I make are =
true. I gotta tell you I didn't know if this was real are not that is =
why I had pieces of it checked out by his organization. I sold a 13lb =
piece a couple of months ago with a very satisfied customer. I wish I =
could send a piece to everyone just to satisfy them! I have a money =
back policy, and a 100% positive feedback and intend to keep it that =
way. I guess I will end up having to end the auction before it is all =
over and call Russ to see what else he can do for me to try to end all =
of this, as clearly folks seem to think I am trying to mislead them. I =
assure you Gregory the pieces I sent him are from the pieces I have up =
for auction and the results are as supplied from his organization. =
Seems I have a lot of suspect experts out there that haven't actually =
seen the items except for what is in the picture, but yet are willing to =
say I am trying to mislead someone. I hope that Russ will call, and =
maybe he can straighten this out. Thanks=20
  Dan Ray=20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The NEMS letter and photos?&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Walter</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"http://www.branchmeteorites.com">www.branchmeteorites.com</A></FO=
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<A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Re: Fwd:=20
  Re: Question for seller -- Item #2175659927</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
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  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>Steve Schoner:<BR><BR>
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  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
  TYPE=3D"CITE"><BR>It alarming to me, as it uses a letter from =
an<BR>standing=20
    IMCA member to "authenticate" items that are<BR>clearly, from the =
photos=20
    shown, NOT Canyon Diablo<BR>meteorites.&nbsp; The seller even posts =
the=20
    authentication<BR>letter in the auction picture=20
  pages.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Hi, Steve&nbsp; -<BR><BR>I think any =
number of=20
  IMCA members and listees are on this guy's case, myself =
included.&nbsp; Just=20
  for the record, his latest note back to me is=20
  below.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Gregory<BR>_____________________________________________<BR><BR>Hi =
Gregory, I=20
  can't believe the amount of people that insist that this is not a =
meteorite,=20
  are that I would use Russ Kempton as a way of selling these =
specimens.&nbsp; I=20
  sent remnants of these specimens and he evaluated them and returned =
the letter=20
  that I have posted on ebay.&nbsp; I assure you as a retired metals =
inspector=20
  for the DOD who worked on Nuclear Submarines for over 20+ years, my =
claim is=20
  as states.&nbsp; And I assure you I fear not any problems, as I know =
the=20
  claims that I make are true.&nbsp; I gotta tell you I didn't know if =
this was=20
  real are not that is why I had pieces of it checked out by his=20
  organization.&nbsp; I sold a 13lb piece a couple of months ago with a =
very=20
  satisfied customer.&nbsp; I wish I could send a piece to everyone just =
to=20
  satisfy them!&nbsp; I have a money back policy, and a 100% positive =
feedback=20
  and intend to keep it that way.&nbsp; I guess I will end up having to =
end the=20
  auction before it is all over and call Russ to see what else he can do =
for me=20
  to try to end all of this, as clearly folks seem to think I am trying =
to=20
  mislead them.&nbsp; I assure you Gregory the pieces I sent him are =
from the=20
  pieces I have up for auction and the results are as supplied from his=20
  organization.&nbsp; Seems I have a lot of suspect experts out there =
that=20
  haven't actually seen the items except for what is in the picture, but =
yet are=20
  willing to say I am trying to mislead someone.&nbsp; I hope that Russ =
will=20
  call, and maybe he can straighten this out. Thanks <BR>Dan Ray=20
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