[meteorite-list] Re: Meteorite-list digest, Vol 1 #1687 - 21 msgs

From: j.divelbiss_at_att.net <j.divelbiss_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:40 2004
Message-ID: <20030515024327.CECA6535E6_at_pairlist.net>

Bob,

Very convincing...you must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Here is my two cents.

I think the Barringer's have had the opportunity to make enough money on the
crater by now. This true wonder of the world is a "one of a kind" crater that
belongs to the people of the country it is located in...and should not be for
profit. In this case the US park's service, or the state of Arizona itself
should assume control in the next 10 years I would hope. Then studies such as
Steve has suggested could be performed, and a wealth of knowledge could be
unleashed to a hungry science community that would love to get closer.

john
> Steve and all,
>
> While I know how you feel about Meteor Crater and MCE, I believe that the
> Barringer Family's claim on the land is very solid. I don't think that a big
> metallic mass is necessary.
>
> My understanding of the Mining Act is that you have to TRY and extract
> commercially valuable minerals for a specific period of time. After the time
> is up, the land is yours. It isn't necessary to ACTUALLY remove minerals, or
> turn a profit, or even show that the minerals you were looking for are
> actually there. It is the act of TRYING that makes the land yours. And
> nobody can fault Daniel Barringer for trying.
>
> Given this, I find it hard to fathom why they would say the "main mass" is
> still there.
>
> Still, I am not a lawyer, and I do not play one on TV either. I could be
> mistaken. Come to think of it, my understanding of this law comes from
> reading a book about the crater.
>
> The book was published by Meteor Crater Enterprises. :)
>
> -----
> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
>

> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
> http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
> .
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Steve Schoner <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 11-1950 Nininger, Meteor Crater
> Hunt Futile
> > To: MARK BOSTICK <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>,
> > Meteorite List <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >
> > Mark, and all,
> >
> > This is a crucial article countering the mining claims
> > of Meteor Crater Enterprises, a fact that their guides
> > miss.
> >
> > In 1950, after years of research finding metallic
> > sphereoids, Nininger proved the equations of Dr.
> > Moulton who predicted that a large impactor would not
> > survive the heat generated on impact. Dr. Shoemaker,
> > later in the early 1960's with his dissertation on
> > Meteor Crater geology laid out the mechanics of larger
> > impactors, and further proved that such impactors in
> > the case of large meteoroids explode in a cloud of
> > vapor on impact.
> >

> > All of this in contrast to what Meteor Crater guides
> > still say:
> >
> > "The meteor is under the southern rim, for when a
> > drill was sent under it, it stopped when hitting a
> > large (metallic) mass."
> >
> > Got to justify the mining claim, I guess...
> [snip]
>
>
>
>
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