[meteorite-list] apology
From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:23:51 2004 Message-ID: <BAA49EAF.4C9B%mlblood_at_cox.net> > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3131350703_17598143_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Prolog: I sent the following (below) email to Bill privately a couple of days ago. I THOUGHT it was going to the list, as well as to Bill, but left town right after sending it and just now realized it did not go to the list. I feel I owe a PUBLIC apology to Bill, who has obviously put in a good deal of time and effort in an attempt to contribute to everyone in our hobby. He did not deserve my publicly badmouthing the fruit of his efforts and I apologize for doing so. Sincerely, Michael
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Hello Bill,
I owe you an apology. That post should have been sent privately
and not to the list.
I apologize.
Best wishes, Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael L Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>
> To: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo
>
>
>> Man,
>> Thanks for the rundown. Boy, am I glad I didn't get any of that
>> s--t!
>> For my nifty Tazas, I guess I'll resort to the trusty DW40
> overnight
>> followed by soft wire brush on a flexible shaft.
>> Best wishes, Michael
>>
>>
>> on 3/22/03 10:29 AM, Bob Martino at martino.6_at_osu.edu wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> And now for an update on the Big-Ass Campo formerly known as "Rusty."
>>>
>>> As you may recall (those who care, anyway), I bought a 19-pound Campo at
> the
>>> Tucson 2003 show this year. No "New Campo" this, it was definitely an
>>> Old-School specimen. Totally covered in rust.
>>>
>>> I contacted Bill Mason and bought one of his new Meteorite Treatment
> Kits.
>>> Unfortunately, I've had mixed results with it.
>>>
>>> Yes, the rust-eating acid worked very well indeed. Unfortunately, the
>>> instructions included with the kit left a bit to be desired. In one
> place
>>> they say to neutralize the acid next, then soak it in alcohol. In
> another
>>> place, it wrongly states to soak in alcohol first and _then_ use the
> acid
>>> neutralizer. (Guess which instructions I followed.) I also followed the
>>> instruction set which didn't happen to mention that the acid neutralizer
>>> needs to be diluted with water first (In one place the instructions say
>>> dilute 10:1 with water, and in another it says 20:1). The result was a
>>> sticky meteorite with way too much neutralizer on it. Thus, when the
> oven
>>> baking was in progress, my house was filled with a nasty burning
> chemical
>>> stink. The heat also apparently destroyed the neutralizer chemicals,
> leaving
>>> me with an ugly white deposit on the specimen (The fact that the cat
> grew
>>> another head is probably just a coincidence).
>>>
>>> So I went back and re-did the whole thing. At least the acid treatment
> went
>>> fast because most of the rust was already gone. I also took the time to
> work
>>> over my 4-inch long Nantan with the rust remover (It's now a nice 2-inch
>>> long Nantan). I got the order of treatment and the concentration of
>>> chemicals correct this time, I think.
>>>
>>> Everything went well until the final coating with the spray-on sealant.
> Now,
>>> my Nantan and my Campo are purple.
>>>
>>> I can think of perhaps three reasons for this:
>>>
>>> (1) I left the two specimens in the sun all day to dry & cure the spray
>>> coating. Did a chemical/color change occur because of light, heat, or
> both?
>>> (2) Perhaps the acid neutralizer was still too concentrated. There may
> have
>>> been a reaction between the neutralizer and the spray-on coating.
>>> (3) Perhaps the spray-on coating is simply too thick. I used four coats.
> The
>>> instructions _did_ say "spray on more layers to add mil thickness," but
> then
>>> again, they failed me before.
>>>
>>> There is nothing in the instructions warning about Purple Haze or how to
>>> avoid it.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else have this problem?
>>>
>>> So now I'm faced with removing the coating with acetone and trying yet
>>> again. I'm also wondering how the acetone will affect the special
>>> rust-inhibiting chemicals applied to the specimen by the various
> treatment
>>> steps. Will I have to start all over again, or can I just spray on a new
>>> coating and not worry? More important, how do I prevent the Purple Haze
> from
>>> returning?
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
>>>
>>> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
>>> http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>>> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>>
>> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
>> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
>> Bertrand Russell
>> --
>> Worth Seeing:
>> - Earth at night from satelite:
>> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
>> - Interactive Lady Liberty:
>> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
>> - Earth - variety of choices:
>> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
>> --
>> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
>>
> http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
>> eorCraterRimL.html
>> --
>> Cool Calendar & Clock:
>> http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
>> --
>> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:
>> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Bertrand Russell
--
Worth Seeing:
- Earth at night from satelite:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
- Interactive Lady Liberty:
http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
- Earth - variety of choices:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
--
Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
eorCraterRimL.html
--
Cool Calendar & Clock:
http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
--
Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:
http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
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Prolog: I sent the following (below) email to Bill privately a couple <BR>
of days ago. I THOUGHT it was going to the list, as well as to Bill, but<BR=
>
left town right after sending it and just now realized it did not go to<BR>
the list. I feel I owe a PUBLIC apology to Bill, who has obviously put in <=
BR>
a good deal of time and effort in an attempt to contribute to everyone <BR>
in our hobby. He did not deserve my publicly badmouthing the fruit <BR>
of his efforts and I apologize for doing so.<BR>
Sincerely, Michael<BR>
<BR>
--<BR>
<BR>
Hello Bill,<BR>
I owe you an apology. That post =
should have been sent privately<BR>
and not to the list. <BR>
I apologize. <BR>
Best wishes, Michael <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> ----- Original Message -----<BR>
> From: "Michael L Blood" <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>mlblood=
_at_cox.net</U></FONT>><BR>
> To: "Bob Martino" <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>martino.6_at_osu=
.edu</U></FONT>>; <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>meteorite-list_at_meteoritece=
ntral.com</U></FONT>><BR>
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 2:27 PM<BR>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
>> Man,<BR>
>> Thanks for the rundown. Boy, am I glad I didn't get any of that<BR=
>
>> s--t!<BR>
>> For my nifty Tazas, I guess I'll resort to the trusty DW40<BR>
> overnight<BR>
>> followed by soft wire brush on a flexible shaft.<BR>
>> Best wishes, Michael<BR>
>> <BR>
>> <BR>
>> on 3/22/03 10:29 AM, Bob Martino at <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>marti=
no.6_at_osu.edu</U></FONT> wrote:<BR>
>> <BR>
>>> All,<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> And now for an update on the Big-Ass Campo formerly known as &=
quot;Rusty."<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> As you may recall (those who care, anyway), I bought a 19-poun=
d Campo at<BR>
> the<BR>
>>> Tucson 2003 show this year. No "New Campo" this, it =
was definitely an<BR>
>>> Old-School specimen. Totally covered in rust.<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> I contacted Bill Mason and bought one of his new Meteorite Tre=
atment<BR>
> Kits.<BR>
>>> Unfortunately, I've had mixed results with it.<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> Yes, the rust-eating acid worked very well indeed. Unfortunate=
ly, the<BR>
>>> instructions included with the kit left a bit to be desired. I=
n one<BR>
> place<BR>
>>> they say to neutralize the acid next, then soak it in alcohol.=
In<BR>
> another<BR>
>>> place, it wrongly states to soak in alcohol first and _then_ u=
se the<BR>
> acid<BR>
>>> neutralizer. (Guess which instructions I followed.) I also fol=
lowed the<BR>
>>> instruction set which didn't happen to mention that the acid n=
eutralizer<BR>
>>> needs to be diluted with water first (In one place the instruc=
tions say<BR>
>>> dilute 10:1 with water, and in another it says 20:1). The resu=
lt was a<BR>
>>> sticky meteorite with way too much neutralizer on it. Thus, wh=
en the<BR>
> oven<BR>
>>> baking was in progress, my house was filled with a nasty burni=
ng<BR>
> chemical<BR>
>>> stink. The heat also apparently destroyed the neutralizer chem=
icals,<BR>
> leaving<BR>
>>> me with an ugly white deposit on the specimen (The fact that t=
he cat<BR>
> grew<BR>
>>> another head is probably just a coincidence).<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> So I went back and re-did the whole thing. At least the acid t=
reatment<BR>
> went<BR>
>>> fast because most of the rust was already gone. I also took th=
e time to<BR>
> work<BR>
>>> over my 4-inch long Nantan with the rust remover (It's now a n=
ice 2-inch<BR>
>>> long Nantan). I got the order of treatment and the concentrati=
on of<BR>
>>> chemicals correct this time, I think.<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> Everything went well until the final coating with the spray-on=
sealant.<BR>
> Now,<BR>
>>> my Nantan and my Campo are purple.<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> I can think of perhaps three reasons for this:<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> (1) I left the two specimens in the sun all day to dry & c=
ure the spray<BR>
>>> coating. Did a chemical/color change occur because of light, h=
eat, or<BR>
> both?<BR>
>>> (2) Perhaps the acid neutralizer was still too concentrated. T=
here may<BR>
> have<BR>
>>> been a reaction between the neutralizer and the spray-on coati=
ng.<BR>
>>> (3) Perhaps the spray-on coating is simply too thick. I used f=
our coats.<BR>
> The<BR>
>>> instructions _did_ say "spray on more layers to add mil t=
hickness," but<BR>
> then<BR>
>>> again, they failed me before.<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> There is nothing in the instructions warning about Purple Haze=
or how to<BR>
>>> avoid it.<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> Has anyone else have this problem?<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> So now I'm faced with removing the coating with acetone and tr=
ying yet<BR>
>>> again. I'm also wondering how the acetone will affect the spec=
ial<BR>
>>> rust-inhibiting chemicals applied to the specimen by the vario=
us<BR>
> treatment<BR>
>>> steps. Will I have to start all over again, or can I just spra=
y on a new<BR>
>>> coating and not worry? More important, how do I prevent the Pu=
rple Haze<BR>
> from<BR>
>>> returning?<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> -----<BR>
>>> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!<BR>
>>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/<=
BR>
</U></FONT>>>> .<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> ______________________________________________<BR>
>>> Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>
>>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<B=
R>
</U></FONT>>>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.pairlist.net/ma=
ilman/listinfo/meteorite-list<BR>
</U></FONT>>> <BR>
>> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are al=
ways so<BR>
>> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.<BR>
>> Bertrand Russell<BR>
>> --<BR>
>> Worth Seeing:<BR>
>> - Earth at night from satelite:<BR>
>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/00=
11/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg<BR>
</U></FONT>>> - Interactive Lady Liberty:<BR>
>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm=
<BR>
</U></FONT>>> - Earth - variety of choices:<BR>
>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet=
.html<BR>
</U></FONT>>> --<BR>
>> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:<BR>
>> <BR>
> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/Gran=
dCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met<BR>
</U></FONT>>> eorCraterRimL.html<BR>
>> --<BR>
>> Cool Calendar & Clock:<BR>
>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.ht=
ml<BR>
</U></FONT>>> --<BR>
>> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:<BR>
>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/<BR=
>
</U></FONT>>> <BR>
>> <BR>
>> <BR>
>> <BR>
>> ______________________________________________<BR>
>> Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>
>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR>
</U></FONT>>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.pairlist.net/mailma=
n/listinfo/meteorite-list<BR>
</U></FONT>> <BR>
<BR>
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so<B=
R>
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.<BR>
Bertrand Russell<BR>
--<BR>
Worth Seeing:<BR>
- Earth at night from satelite:<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthl=
ights_dmsp_big.jpg<BR>
</U></FONT>- Interactive Lady Liberty:<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm<BR>
</U></FONT>- Earth - variety of choices:<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html</U>=
</FONT> <BR>
--<BR>
Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCany=
onRoute66/MeteorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html<BR>
-</U></FONT>-<BR>
Cool Calendar & Clock:<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html=
<BR>
</U></FONT>--<BR>
Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/<BR>
</U></FONT><BR>
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