[meteorite-list] apology
From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:23:51 2004 Message-ID: <BAA49EAF.4C9B%mlblood_at_cox.net> > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3131350703_17598143_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Prolog: I sent the following (below) email to Bill privately a couple of days ago. I THOUGHT it was going to the list, as well as to Bill, but left town right after sending it and just now realized it did not go to the list. I feel I owe a PUBLIC apology to Bill, who has obviously put in a good deal of time and effort in an attempt to contribute to everyone in our hobby. He did not deserve my publicly badmouthing the fruit of his efforts and I apologize for doing so. Sincerely, Michael -- Hello Bill, I owe you an apology. That post should have been sent privately and not to the list. I apologize. Best wishes, Michael > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael L Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net> > To: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo > > >> Man, >> Thanks for the rundown. Boy, am I glad I didn't get any of that >> s--t! >> For my nifty Tazas, I guess I'll resort to the trusty DW40 > overnight >> followed by soft wire brush on a flexible shaft. >> Best wishes, Michael >> >> >> on 3/22/03 10:29 AM, Bob Martino at martino.6_at_osu.edu wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> And now for an update on the Big-Ass Campo formerly known as "Rusty." >>> >>> As you may recall (those who care, anyway), I bought a 19-pound Campo at > the >>> Tucson 2003 show this year. No "New Campo" this, it was definitely an >>> Old-School specimen. Totally covered in rust. >>> >>> I contacted Bill Mason and bought one of his new Meteorite Treatment > Kits. >>> Unfortunately, I've had mixed results with it. >>> >>> Yes, the rust-eating acid worked very well indeed. Unfortunately, the >>> instructions included with the kit left a bit to be desired. In one > place >>> they say to neutralize the acid next, then soak it in alcohol. In > another >>> place, it wrongly states to soak in alcohol first and _then_ use the > acid >>> neutralizer. (Guess which instructions I followed.) I also followed the >>> instruction set which didn't happen to mention that the acid neutralizer >>> needs to be diluted with water first (In one place the instructions say >>> dilute 10:1 with water, and in another it says 20:1). The result was a >>> sticky meteorite with way too much neutralizer on it. Thus, when the > oven >>> baking was in progress, my house was filled with a nasty burning > chemical >>> stink. The heat also apparently destroyed the neutralizer chemicals, > leaving >>> me with an ugly white deposit on the specimen (The fact that the cat > grew >>> another head is probably just a coincidence). >>> >>> So I went back and re-did the whole thing. At least the acid treatment > went >>> fast because most of the rust was already gone. I also took the time to > work >>> over my 4-inch long Nantan with the rust remover (It's now a nice 2-inch >>> long Nantan). I got the order of treatment and the concentration of >>> chemicals correct this time, I think. >>> >>> Everything went well until the final coating with the spray-on sealant. > Now, >>> my Nantan and my Campo are purple. >>> >>> I can think of perhaps three reasons for this: >>> >>> (1) I left the two specimens in the sun all day to dry & cure the spray >>> coating. Did a chemical/color change occur because of light, heat, or > both? >>> (2) Perhaps the acid neutralizer was still too concentrated. There may > have >>> been a reaction between the neutralizer and the spray-on coating. >>> (3) Perhaps the spray-on coating is simply too thick. I used four coats. > The >>> instructions _did_ say "spray on more layers to add mil thickness," but > then >>> again, they failed me before. >>> >>> There is nothing in the instructions warning about Purple Haze or how to >>> avoid it. >>> >>> Has anyone else have this problem? >>> >>> So now I'm faced with removing the coating with acetone and trying yet >>> again. I'm also wondering how the acetone will affect the special >>> rust-inhibiting chemicals applied to the specimen by the various > treatment >>> steps. Will I have to start all over again, or can I just spray on a new >>> coating and not worry? More important, how do I prevent the Purple Haze > from >>> returning? >>> >>> ----- >>> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ >>> >>> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth! >>> http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com >>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so >> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. >> Bertrand Russell >> -- >> Worth Seeing: >> - Earth at night from satelite: >> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg >> - Interactive Lady Liberty: >> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm >> - Earth - variety of choices: >> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html >> -- >> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: >> > http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met >> eorCraterRimL.html >> -- >> Cool Calendar & Clock: >> http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html >> -- >> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at: >> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar & Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ --MS_Mac_OE_3131350703_17598143_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>apology</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Prolog: I sent the following (below) email to Bill privately a couple <BR> of days ago. I THOUGHT it was going to the list, as well as to Bill, but<BR= > left town right after sending it and just now realized it did not go to<BR> the list. I feel I owe a PUBLIC apology to Bill, who has obviously put in <= BR> a good deal of time and effort in an attempt to contribute to everyone <BR> in our hobby. He did not deserve my publicly badmouthing the fruit <BR> of his efforts and I apologize for doing so.<BR> Sincerely, Michael<BR> <BR> --<BR> <BR> Hello Bill,<BR> I owe you an apology. That post = should have been sent privately<BR> and not to the list. <BR> I apologize. <BR> Best wishes, Michael <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> > ----- Original Message -----<BR> > From: "Michael L Blood" <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>mlblood= _at_cox.net</U></FONT>><BR> > To: "Bob Martino" <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>martino.6_at_osu= .edu</U></FONT>>; <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>meteorite-list_at_meteoritece= ntral.com</U></FONT>><BR> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 2:27 PM<BR> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo<BR> > <BR> > <BR> >> Man,<BR> >> Thanks for the rundown. Boy, am I glad I didn't get any of that<BR= > >> s--t!<BR> >> For my nifty Tazas, I guess I'll resort to the trusty DW40<BR> > overnight<BR> >> followed by soft wire brush on a flexible shaft.<BR> >> Best wishes, Michael<BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> on 3/22/03 10:29 AM, Bob Martino at <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>marti= no.6_at_osu.edu</U></FONT> wrote:<BR> >> <BR> >>> All,<BR> >>> <BR> >>> And now for an update on the Big-Ass Campo formerly known as &= quot;Rusty."<BR> >>> <BR> >>> As you may recall (those who care, anyway), I bought a 19-poun= d Campo at<BR> > the<BR> >>> Tucson 2003 show this year. No "New Campo" this, it = was definitely an<BR> >>> Old-School specimen. Totally covered in rust.<BR> >>> <BR> >>> I contacted Bill Mason and bought one of his new Meteorite Tre= atment<BR> > Kits.<BR> >>> Unfortunately, I've had mixed results with it.<BR> >>> <BR> >>> Yes, the rust-eating acid worked very well indeed. Unfortunate= ly, the<BR> >>> instructions included with the kit left a bit to be desired. I= n one<BR> > place<BR> >>> they say to neutralize the acid next, then soak it in alcohol.= In<BR> > another<BR> >>> place, it wrongly states to soak in alcohol first and _then_ u= se the<BR> > acid<BR> >>> neutralizer. (Guess which instructions I followed.) I also fol= lowed the<BR> >>> instruction set which didn't happen to mention that the acid n= eutralizer<BR> >>> needs to be diluted with water first (In one place the instruc= tions say<BR> >>> dilute 10:1 with water, and in another it says 20:1). The resu= lt was a<BR> >>> sticky meteorite with way too much neutralizer on it. Thus, wh= en the<BR> > oven<BR> >>> baking was in progress, my house was filled with a nasty burni= ng<BR> > chemical<BR> >>> stink. The heat also apparently destroyed the neutralizer chem= icals,<BR> > leaving<BR> >>> me with an ugly white deposit on the specimen (The fact that t= he cat<BR> > grew<BR> >>> another head is probably just a coincidence).<BR> >>> <BR> >>> So I went back and re-did the whole thing. At least the acid t= reatment<BR> > went<BR> >>> fast because most of the rust was already gone. I also took th= e time to<BR> > work<BR> >>> over my 4-inch long Nantan with the rust remover (It's now a n= ice 2-inch<BR> >>> long Nantan). I got the order of treatment and the concentrati= on of<BR> >>> chemicals correct this time, I think.<BR> >>> <BR> >>> Everything went well until the final coating with the spray-on= sealant.<BR> > Now,<BR> >>> my Nantan and my Campo are purple.<BR> >>> <BR> >>> I can think of perhaps three reasons for this:<BR> >>> <BR> >>> (1) I left the two specimens in the sun all day to dry & c= ure the spray<BR> >>> coating. Did a chemical/color change occur because of light, h= eat, or<BR> > both?<BR> >>> (2) Perhaps the acid neutralizer was still too concentrated. T= here may<BR> > have<BR> >>> been a reaction between the neutralizer and the spray-on coati= ng.<BR> >>> (3) Perhaps the spray-on coating is simply too thick. I used f= our coats.<BR> > The<BR> >>> instructions _did_ say "spray on more layers to add mil t= hickness," but<BR> > then<BR> >>> again, they failed me before.<BR> >>> <BR> >>> There is nothing in the instructions warning about Purple Haze= or how to<BR> >>> avoid it.<BR> >>> <BR> >>> Has anyone else have this problem?<BR> >>> <BR> >>> So now I'm faced with removing the coating with acetone and tr= ying yet<BR> >>> again. I'm also wondering how the acetone will affect the spec= ial<BR> >>> rust-inhibiting chemicals applied to the specimen by the vario= us<BR> > treatment<BR> >>> steps. Will I have to start all over again, or can I just spra= y on a new<BR> >>> coating and not worry? More important, how do I prevent the Pu= rple Haze<BR> > from<BR> >>> returning?<BR> >>> <BR> >>> -----<BR> >>> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ<BR> >>> <BR> >>> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!<BR> >>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/<= BR> </U></FONT>>>> .<BR> >>> <BR> >>> <BR> >>> <BR> >>> <BR> >>> ______________________________________________<BR> >>> Meteorite-list mailing list<BR> >>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<B= R> </U></FONT>>>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.pairlist.net/ma= ilman/listinfo/meteorite-list<BR> </U></FONT>>> <BR> >> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are al= ways so<BR> >> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.<BR> >> Bertrand Russell<BR> >> --<BR> >> Worth Seeing:<BR> >> - Earth at night from satelite:<BR> >> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/00= 11/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg<BR> </U></FONT>>> - Interactive Lady Liberty:<BR> >> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm= <BR> </U></FONT>>> - Earth - variety of choices:<BR> >> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet= .html<BR> </U></FONT>>> --<BR> >> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:<BR> >> <BR> > <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/Gran= dCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met<BR> </U></FONT>>> eorCraterRimL.html<BR> >> --<BR> >> Cool Calendar & Clock:<BR> >> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.ht= ml<BR> </U></FONT>>> --<BR> >> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:<BR> >> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/<BR= > </U></FONT>>> <BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> <BR> >> ______________________________________________<BR> >> Meteorite-list mailing list<BR> >> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR> </U></FONT>>> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.pairlist.net/mailma= n/listinfo/meteorite-list<BR> </U></FONT>> <BR> <BR> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so<B= R> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.<BR> Bertrand Russell<BR> --<BR> Worth Seeing:<BR> - Earth at night from satelite:<BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthl= ights_dmsp_big.jpg<BR> </U></FONT>- Interactive Lady Liberty:<BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm<BR> </U></FONT>- Earth - variety of choices:<BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html</U>= </FONT> <BR> --<BR> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:<BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCany= onRoute66/MeteorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html<BR> -</U></FONT>-<BR> Cool Calendar & Clock:<BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html= <BR> </U></FONT>--<BR> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:<BR> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/<BR> </U></FONT><BR> <BR> </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3131350703_17598143_MIME_Part--Received on Mon 24 Mar 2003 02:38:23 PM PST |
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