[meteorite-list] apology

From: Edward Hodges <holyfireballs_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:23:51 2004
Message-ID: <F117YS3Vbfb8tnurzwc00014c60_at_hotmail.com>

Like Michael, I live in San Diego and rust is a huge concern. I've used Bill
Mason's kit also with mixed results. I noticed the slight mistakes in the
instructions. I decided to do my neutralization step and final rinse step
before the alcohol bath and it seems to work fine. My Sikhote Alin's have a
slight purple cast, If anyone knows how this can be avoided or lessened
please let me know. I've found a roof sealer clear coat that can be brushed
on without mess, or brush strokes evident, I'll try to remember the name. By
the way WD-40 contains water so I stay away from it. There are other rust
-dissolvers that are completely oil based, just ask your auto parts store.
It would be interesting to see some before and after pictures, and some
notes from people who have tried the new kit. If you have any input, I'm
sure we are all interested in keeping our irons looking brand new.
Thanks.-Edward

Edward R. Hodges
www.meteoriteonline.com
IMCA # 4173





>From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net>
>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: [meteorite-list] apology
>Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:38:23 -0800
>
>Prolog: I sent the following (below) email to Bill privately a couple
>of days ago. I THOUGHT it was going to the list, as well as to Bill, but
>left town right after sending it and just now realized it did not go to
>the list. I feel I owe a PUBLIC apology to Bill, who has obviously put in
>a good deal of time and effort in an attempt to contribute to everyone
>in our hobby. He did not deserve my publicly badmouthing the fruit
>of his efforts and I apologize for doing so.
> Sincerely, Michael
>
>--
>
>Hello Bill,
> I owe you an apology. That post should have been sent privately
>and not to the list.
> I apologize.
> Best wishes, Michael
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael L Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>
> > To: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>;
><meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 2:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big-Ass Purple Campo
> >
> >
> >> Man,
> >> Thanks for the rundown. Boy, am I glad I didn't get any of that
> >> s--t!
> >> For my nifty Tazas, I guess I'll resort to the trusty DW40
> > overnight
> >> followed by soft wire brush on a flexible shaft.
> >> Best wishes, Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> on 3/22/03 10:29 AM, Bob Martino at martino.6_at_osu.edu wrote:
> >>
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> And now for an update on the Big-Ass Campo formerly known as "Rusty."
> >>>
> >>> As you may recall (those who care, anyway), I bought a 19-pound Campo
>at
> > the
> >>> Tucson 2003 show this year. No "New Campo" this, it was definitely an
> >>> Old-School specimen. Totally covered in rust.
> >>>
> >>> I contacted Bill Mason and bought one of his new Meteorite Treatment
> > Kits.
> >>> Unfortunately, I've had mixed results with it.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the rust-eating acid worked very well indeed. Unfortunately, the
> >>> instructions included with the kit left a bit to be desired. In one
> > place
> >>> they say to neutralize the acid next, then soak it in alcohol. In
> > another
> >>> place, it wrongly states to soak in alcohol first and _then_ use the
> > acid
> >>> neutralizer. (Guess which instructions I followed.) I also followed
>the
> >>> instruction set which didn't happen to mention that the acid
>neutralizer
> >>> needs to be diluted with water first (In one place the instructions
>say
> >>> dilute 10:1 with water, and in another it says 20:1). The result was a
> >>> sticky meteorite with way too much neutralizer on it. Thus, when the
> > oven
> >>> baking was in progress, my house was filled with a nasty burning
> > chemical
> >>> stink. The heat also apparently destroyed the neutralizer chemicals,
> > leaving
> >>> me with an ugly white deposit on the specimen (The fact that the cat
> > grew
> >>> another head is probably just a coincidence).
> >>>
> >>> So I went back and re-did the whole thing. At least the acid treatment
> > went
> >>> fast because most of the rust was already gone. I also took the time
>to
> > work
> >>> over my 4-inch long Nantan with the rust remover (It's now a nice
>2-inch
> >>> long Nantan). I got the order of treatment and the concentration of
> >>> chemicals correct this time, I think.
> >>>
> >>> Everything went well until the final coating with the spray-on
>sealant.
> > Now,
> >>> my Nantan and my Campo are purple.
> >>>
> >>> I can think of perhaps three reasons for this:
> >>>
> >>> (1) I left the two specimens in the sun all day to dry & cure the
>spray
> >>> coating. Did a chemical/color change occur because of light, heat, or
> > both?
> >>> (2) Perhaps the acid neutralizer was still too concentrated. There may
> > have
> >>> been a reaction between the neutralizer and the spray-on coating.
> >>> (3) Perhaps the spray-on coating is simply too thick. I used four
>coats.
> > The
> >>> instructions _did_ say "spray on more layers to add mil thickness,"
>but
> > then
> >>> again, they failed me before.
> >>>
> >>> There is nothing in the instructions warning about Purple Haze or how
>to
> >>> avoid it.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone else have this problem?
> >>>
> >>> So now I'm faced with removing the coating with acetone and trying yet
> >>> again. I'm also wondering how the acetone will affect the special
> >>> rust-inhibiting chemicals applied to the specimen by the various
> > treatment
> >>> steps. Will I have to start all over again, or can I just spray on a
>new
> >>> coating and not worry? More important, how do I prevent the Purple
>Haze
> > from
> >>> returning?
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
> >>>
> >>> Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
> >>> http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ______________________________________________
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> >>> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> >>> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >>
> >> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always
>so
> >> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
> >> Bertrand Russell
> >> --
> >> Worth Seeing:
> >> - Earth at night from satelite:
> >> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
> >> - Interactive Lady Liberty:
> >> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
> >> - Earth - variety of choices:
> >> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
> >> --
> >> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
> >>
> >
>http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
> >> eorCraterRimL.html
> >> --
> >> Cool Calendar & Clock:
> >> http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
> >> --
> >> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:
> >> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________
> >> Meteorite-list mailing list
> >> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >
>
>The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
>certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
> Bertrand Russell
>--
>Worth Seeing:
>- Earth at night from satelite:
>http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
>- Interactive Lady Liberty:
>http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
>- Earth - variety of choices:
>http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
>--
>Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
>http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
>eorCraterRimL.html
>--
>Cool Calendar & Clock:
> http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
>--
>Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:
>http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
>
>
>


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