[meteorite-list] Elma Status?

From: Tom aka James Knudson <knudson911_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:29 2004
Message-ID: <010d01c35c70$e23c48c0$64cb43d8_at_malcolm>

Hello All, How about a glass manufacturing bi-product?
Thanks, Tom
Peregrineflier <><
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?


> Hi Tom and List,
>
> The problem with this material is that it does not contain any metal. If
it
> was in a reducing environment why isn't there any metal, even at
microprobe
> levels? This almost certainly eliminates this material coming from an
> industrial process, at least none that I have ever heard of. If it came
> from a foundry why wasn't the sand melted in the center. The sand is also
> trapped in sealed vesicles, that look almost like chondrules, like a
> condensation product, which is extremely odd. It was extremely difficult
to
> make thin-sections of this stuff because of the friability of the material
> trapped inside.
>
> Will update as we get more results,
>
> Adam
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
> To: "mafer" <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>; "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe@comcast.net>
> Cc: "meteor central" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>
>
> > Hello All, This Elma stuff sounds like a metal casting bi-product from a
> > foundry. Is there a foundry in our around Elma?
> > Thanks, Tom
> > Peregrineflier <><
> > The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mafer <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>
> > To: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > Cc: meteor central <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> >
> >
> > > fulguritic? given a sighting of a smoking trail and smoldering pieces
of
> > > "basaltic" glass with sand inside, sounds like some atmospheric event
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Mike, Mike and List,
> > > >
> > > > The Elma material is definitely not a meteorite, so to speak. It
> could
> > > > prove to be just as or more interesting to the scientific community.
> > The
> > > > jury is still out on exactly what this material is or how it was
> > created.
> > > > The initial lab results created more questions than answers. As has
> been
> > > > reported this material consist of sand incased in a basaltic glass
> > shell.
> > > > The materials in the glass are not separated into swirls so what
ever
> > > > created these objects had a huge amount of energy and the glass was
> > > quenched
> > > > very rapidly. Experiments are being conducted to see how these might
> > have
> > > > been created. We should have more answers by next week. This is
> > looking
> > > > more like an X-files episode than a meteor sighting. For now, we
are
> > > > keeping an open mind regarding this material.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Adam and Greg Hupe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Farmer" <farmerm_at_concentric.net>
> > > > To: "Mike Groetz" <mpg444_at_yahoo.com>; "Meteorite List"
> > > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:35 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Mike, forget about this one, there is not a chance in hell that a
> > > > meteorite
> > > > > was recovered there.
> > > > > Mike Farmer
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Mike Groetz" <mpg444_at_yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:35 PM
> > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Everyone-
> > > > > > Is this all said and done with or is the jury still
> > > > > > out with any maybe's?
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
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