[meteorite-list] Elma Status?

From: Dave Andrews <dandre10_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:29 2004
Message-ID: <3F318DE4.5020102_at_cybertrails.com>

Ball lightning? I've seen it before and it could possibly fool people
into thinking it is a meteor. Now about making some type of fulgurite,
I couldn't tell you.

Just a thought.

Dave

Adam Hupe wrote:

>Hi Tom and List,
>
>The problem with this material is that it does not contain any metal. If it
>was in a reducing environment why isn't there any metal, even at microprobe
>levels? This almost certainly eliminates this material coming from an
>industrial process, at least none that I have ever heard of. If it came
>from a foundry why wasn't the sand melted in the center. The sand is also
>trapped in sealed vesicles, that look almost like chondrules, like a
>condensation product, which is extremely odd. It was extremely difficult to
>make thin-sections of this stuff because of the friability of the material
>trapped inside.
>
>Will update as we get more results,
>
>Adam
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
>To: "mafer" <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>; "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe@comcast.net>
>Cc: "meteor central" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>
>
>
>
>>Hello All, This Elma stuff sounds like a metal casting bi-product from a
>>foundry. Is there a foundry in our around Elma?
>>Thanks, Tom
>>Peregrineflier <><
>>The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: mafer <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>
>>To: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
>>Cc: meteor central <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:30 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>fulguritic? given a sighting of a smoking trail and smoldering pieces of
>>>"basaltic" glass with sand inside, sounds like some atmospheric event
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
>>>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:22 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Mike, Mike and List,
>>>>
>>>>The Elma material is definitely not a meteorite, so to speak. It
>>>>
>>>>
>could
>
>
>>>>prove to be just as or more interesting to the scientific community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>The
>>
>>
>>>>jury is still out on exactly what this material is or how it was
>>>>
>>>>
>>created.
>>
>>
>>>>The initial lab results created more questions than answers. As has
>>>>
>>>>
>been
>
>
>>>>reported this material consist of sand incased in a basaltic glass
>>>>
>>>>
>>shell.
>>
>>
>>>>The materials in the glass are not separated into swirls so what ever
>>>>created these objects had a huge amount of energy and the glass was
>>>>
>>>>
>>>quenched
>>>
>>>
>>>>very rapidly. Experiments are being conducted to see how these might
>>>>
>>>>
>>have
>>
>>
>>>>been created. We should have more answers by next week. This is
>>>>
>>>>
>>looking
>>
>>
>>>>more like an X-files episode than a meteor sighting. For now, we are
>>>>keeping an open mind regarding this material.
>>>>
>>>>All the best,
>>>>
>>>>Adam and Greg Hupe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Michael Farmer" <farmerm_at_concentric.net>
>>>>To: "Mike Groetz" <mpg444_at_yahoo.com>; "Meteorite List"
>>>><meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:35 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Mike, forget about this one, there is not a chance in hell that a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>meteorite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>was recovered there.
>>>>>Mike Farmer
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Mike Groetz" <mpg444_at_yahoo.com>
>>>>>To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:35 PM
>>>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Everyone-
>>>>>> Is this all said and done with or is the jury still
>>>>>>out with any maybe's?
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
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