[meteorite-list] Elma Status?

From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:29 2004
Message-ID: <00b401c35c6f$ae6fe5c0$b4dbe60c_at_attbi.com>

Hi Tom and List,

The problem with this material is that it does not contain any metal. If it
was in a reducing environment why isn't there any metal, even at microprobe
levels? This almost certainly eliminates this material coming from an
industrial process, at least none that I have ever heard of. If it came
from a foundry why wasn't the sand melted in the center. The sand is also
trapped in sealed vesicles, that look almost like chondrules, like a
condensation product, which is extremely odd. It was extremely difficult to
make thin-sections of this stuff because of the friability of the material
trapped inside.

Will update as we get more results,

Adam


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
To: "mafer" <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>; "Adam Hupe" <adamhupe@comcast.net>
Cc: "meteor central" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?


> Hello All, This Elma stuff sounds like a metal casting bi-product from a
> foundry. Is there a foundry in our around Elma?
> Thanks, Tom
> Peregrineflier <><
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mafer <mafer_at_imagineopals.com>
> To: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> Cc: meteor central <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
>
>
> > fulguritic? given a sighting of a smoking trail and smoldering pieces of
> > "basaltic" glass with sand inside, sounds like some atmospheric event
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_comcast.net>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Mike, Mike and List,
> > >
> > > The Elma material is definitely not a meteorite, so to speak. It
could
> > > prove to be just as or more interesting to the scientific community.
> The
> > > jury is still out on exactly what this material is or how it was
> created.
> > > The initial lab results created more questions than answers. As has
been
> > > reported this material consist of sand incased in a basaltic glass
> shell.
> > > The materials in the glass are not separated into swirls so what ever
> > > created these objects had a huge amount of energy and the glass was
> > quenched
> > > very rapidly. Experiments are being conducted to see how these might
> have
> > > been created. We should have more answers by next week. This is
> looking
> > > more like an X-files episode than a meteor sighting. For now, we are
> > > keeping an open mind regarding this material.
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Adam and Greg Hupe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Farmer" <farmerm_at_concentric.net>
> > > To: "Mike Groetz" <mpg444_at_yahoo.com>; "Meteorite List"
> > > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mike, forget about this one, there is not a chance in hell that a
> > > meteorite
> > > > was recovered there.
> > > > Mike Farmer
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mike Groetz" <mpg444_at_yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:35 PM
> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Elma Status?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Everyone-
> > > > > Is this all said and done with or is the jury still
> > > > > out with any maybe's?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
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