[meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two
From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:04 2004 Message-ID: <BAB6383E.540A%mlblood_at_cox.net> > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3132504126_4919435_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, Sorry, I had no idea you would take my comments personally. Sincerely, Michael on 4/6/03 7:20 PM, Michael Farmer at farmerm_at_concentric.net wrote: Michael, I am sorry to burst your bubble, but Adam did exactly EXACTLY that! He was in the room and offered $15 k for the meteorite I had just bought for $12K. Can't people just frigging tell things like they are? Mike Farmer ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael L Blood <mailto:mlblood_at_cox.net> To: Adam Hupe <mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com> ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two Hi Adam, Excellent post. You and Greg are two of the few sane dealers who have an awareness about the price impact of your actions. Amazing TOTALLY amazing how rare this is. I have been harping on this subject my entire career and have turned up the volume since the Monahans event (interesting I have become good friends with Steve since then and have a great deal of respect for him). However, I have yet to meet a dealer who can hear a word I say on the topic. They seam to either "get it" or not and nothing said affects them one way or the other. I heard of dealers negotiating with people in Park Forrest only to have another dealer rudely interrupt with, "Hell, I'll give you more than THAT for it!" right on the spot. This is the kind of unthinking avarice that impacts price - not your report to the list you referenced. Thank you for being a conscientious dealer - and a damned good reporter, too. Sincerely, Michael Blood on 4/6/03 10:39 AM, Adam Hupe at adamhupe_at_attbi.com wrote: Dear List, Here we go again! I am personally glad to be home after spending five intense days in the so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of you who were not able to go you did not miss much. The weather was horrible, most of the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. My brother, Greg arrived yesterday and met up with Al Lang to pick up an entire bedroom that had been hammered by one of these stones. We will reconstruct the bedroom with the ceiling that had two holes punched in it, the venetian blinds that were split down the center, a metal windowsill with a huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, all hit by the same meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as he was sleeping. This collection will be displayed proudly next to the Peekskill car in a private museum. We plan on possibly displaying the collection at the Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. We acquired several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and will integrate them into another interpretive display. This represents the world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted by meteorites. We feel it is important to preserve these historical items for future generations to enjoy. On another note: Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in a rural area?, maybe next time. I do not believe the prices would have been so high if the stones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. Word spread like wild fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices being realized for stones that hit things. These street-smart finders then played a lot of dealers and collectors in the field for as much money as they could get and now everybody is paying the price. You can blame dealers who lacked the patience to negotiate better prices and manage the situation in a professional manner for these high prices. Instead money was thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. I owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called "Park Forest - the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway to the high prices, I apologize. I admit there were a few times when we paid more than we should have. Wishing everybody well, Adam Hupe IMCA 2185 The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar & Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar & Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ --MS_Mac_OE_3132504126_4919435_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Hi Mike,<BR> Sorry, I had no idea you would t= ake my comments personally. <BR> Sincerely, Michael <BR> <BR> on 4/6/03 7:20 PM, Michael Farmer at farmerm_at_concentric.net wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Michael, I am sorry to burst = your bubble, but Adam did exactly EXACTLY that! He was in the room and offer= ed $15 k for the meteorite I had just bought for $12K. Can't people just fri= gging tell things like they are? <BR> Mike Farmer<BR> </FONT></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <B>From:</B> Michael L Blood <mailto:mlblood_at_cox.net> <BR> <B>To:</B> Adam Hupe <mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com> ; meteorite-li= st_at_meteoritecentral.com <BR> <B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 11:15 AM<BR> <B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two<BR> <BR> Hi Adam,<BR> Excellent post. You and Greg are two o= f the few sane dealers who <BR> have an awareness about the price impact of your actions. Amazing<BR> TOTALLY amazing how rare this is. <BR> I have been harping on this subject my= entire career and have<BR> turned up the volume since the Monahans event (interesting I have<BR> become good friends with Steve since then and have a great deal of<BR> respect for him). However, I have yet to meet a dealer who can hear<BR> a word I say on the topic. They seam to either "get it" or not an= d <BR> nothing said affects them one way or the other.<BR> I heard of dealers negotiating with pe= ople in Park Forrest only<BR> to have another dealer rudely interrupt with, "Hell, I'll give you mor= e<BR> than THAT for it!" right on the spot. This is the kind of unthinking<B= R> avarice that impacts price - not your report to the list you referenced.<BR= > Thank you for being a conscientious de= aler - and a damned good<BR> reporter, too. <BR> Sincerely, Michael Blood <BR> <BR> on 4/6/03 10:39 AM, Adam Hupe at adamhupe_at_attbi.com wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Dear List,<BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Here we go again! I am personally g= lad to be home after spending five intense days in the so-called "Urban= Strewnfield". For those of you who were not able to go you did n= ot miss much. The weather was horrible, most of the neighborhood was r= ough and the greed was amazing. <BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">My brother, Greg arrived yesterday and me= t up with Al Lang to pick up an entire bedroom that had been hammered by one= of these stones. We will reconstruct the bedroom with the ceiling tha= t had two holes punched in it, the venetian blinds that were split down the = center, a metal windowsill with a huge impact crater and a mirror that was s= hattered, all hit by the same meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inch= es as he was sleeping. This collection will be displayed proudly next = to the Peekskill car in a private museum. We plan on possibly displayi= ng the collection at the Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. = We acquired several other impacted items from all over the strewn fiel= d and will integrate them into another interpretive display. This represents= the world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted by meteorites. = We feel it is important to preserve these historical items for future = generations to enjoy. <BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">On another note:<BR> Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in a rural area?, maybe ne= xt time. I do not believe the prices would have been so high if the st= ones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. Word spread like wild= fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices being realized for stones= that hit things. These street-smart finders then played a lot of deal= ers and collectors in the field for as much money as they could get and now = everybody is paying the price. You can blame dealers who lacked the pa= tience to negotiate better prices and manage the situation in a professional= manner for these high prices. Instead money was thrown around excitin= g the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. I owned up to my part in thi= s whole thing with a post called "Park Forest - the pulling of teeth&qu= ot;. If I contributed in anyway to the high prices, I apologize.  = ;I admit there were a few times when we paid more than we should have. <BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Wishing everybody well,<BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Adam Hupe<BR> IMCA 2185<BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> <BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so<B= R> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.<BR> Bertrand Russell<BR> --<BR> Worth Seeing:<BR> - Earth at night from satelite:<BR> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg<BR> - Interactive Lady Liberty:<BR> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm<BR> - Earth - variety of choices:<BR> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html <BR> --<BR> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:<BR> http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Me= teorCraterRimL.html<BR> --<BR> Cool Calendar & Clock:<BR> http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html<BR> --<BR> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:<BR> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/<BR> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so<B= R> certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.<BR> Bertrand Russell<BR> --<BR> Worth Seeing:<BR> - Earth at night from satelite:<BR> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg<BR> - Interactive Lady Liberty:<BR> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm<BR> - Earth - variety of choices:<BR> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html <BR> --<BR> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:<BR> http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Me= teorCraterRimL.html<BR> --<BR> Cool Calendar & Clock:<BR> http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html<BR> --<BR> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:<BR> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/<BR> <BR> <BR> </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3132504126_4919435_MIME_Part--Received on Sun 06 Apr 2003 11:02:06 PM PDT |
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