[meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two

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From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:04 2004
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Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round TwoMichael, I am sorry to burst =
your bubble, but Adam did exactly EXACTLY that! He was in the room and =
offered $15 k for the meteorite I had just bought for $12K. Can't people =
just frigging tell things like they are?=20
Mike Farmer
 ----- Original Message -----=20
 From: Michael L Blood=20
 To: Adam Hupe ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two

 Hi Adam,
 Excellent post. You and Greg are two of the few sane dealers =
who=20
 have an awareness about the price impact of your actions. Amazing
 TOTALLY amazing how rare this is.=20
 I have been harping on this subject my entire career and have
 turned up the volume since the Monahans event (interesting I have
 become good friends with Steve since then and have a great deal of
 respect for him). However, I have yet to meet a dealer who can hear
 a word I say on the topic. They seam to either "get it" or not and=20
 nothing said affects them one way or the other.
 I heard of dealers negotiating with people in Park Forrest only
 to have another dealer rudely interrupt with, "Hell, I'll give you =
more
 than THAT for it!" right on the spot. This is the kind of unthinking
 avarice that impacts price - not your report to the list you =
referenced.
 Thank you for being a conscientious dealer - and a damned good
 reporter, too.=20
 Sincerely, Michael Blood=20

 on 4/6/03 10:39 AM, Adam Hupe at adamhupe_at_attbi.com wrote:

 Dear List,

 Here we go again! I am personally glad to be home after spending =
five intense days in the so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of =
you who were not able to go you did not miss much. The weather was =
horrible, most of the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. =

 My brother, Greg arrived yesterday and met up with Al Lang to pick =
up an entire bedroom that had been hammered by one of these stones. We =
will reconstruct the bedroom with the ceiling that had two holes punched =
in it, the venetian blinds that were split down the center, a metal =
windowsill with a huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, =
all hit by the same meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as =
he was sleeping. This collection will be displayed proudly next to the =
Peekskill car in a private museum. We plan on possibly displaying the =
collection at the Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. We =
acquired several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and =
will integrate them into another interpretive display. This represents =
the world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted by =
meteorites. We feel it is important to preserve these historical items =
for future generations to enjoy. =20

 On another note:
 Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in a rural area?, =
maybe next time. I do not believe the prices would have been so high if =
the stones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. Word spread like =
wild fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices being realized =
for stones that hit things. These street-smart finders then played a =
lot of dealers and collectors in the field for as much money as they =
could get and now everybody is paying the price. You can blame dealers =
who lacked the patience to negotiate better prices and manage the =
situation in a professional manner for these high prices. Instead money =
was thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. I =
owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called "Park Forest =
- the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway to the high prices, =
I apologize. I admit there were a few times when we paid more than we =
should have.=20

 Wishing everybody well,

 Adam Hupe
 IMCA 2185

 =20

 The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always =
so
 certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
 Bertrand Russell
 --
 Worth Seeing:
 - Earth at night from satelite:
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
 - Interactive Lady Liberty:
 http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
 - Earth - variety of choices:
 http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html=20
 --
 Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
 =
http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/=
MeteorCraterRimL.html
 --
 Cool Calendar & Clock:
 http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
 --
 Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:
 http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/

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<DIV>Michael, I am sorry to burst your =
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did exactly EXACTLY that! He was in the room and offered $15 k for the =
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Blood</A>=20
 </DIV>
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title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com=20
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 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
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href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
 </DIV>
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11:15=20
 AM</DIV>
 <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] =
Park Forest=20
 - Round Two</DIV>
 <DIV> </DIV>Hi =
Adam,        Excellent=20
 post. You and Greg are two of the few sane dealers who have an =
awareness=20
 about the price impact of your actions. Amazing TOTALLY amazing how =
rare=20
 this is.        I have been =
harping on=20
 this subject my entire career and have turned up the volume since =
the=20
 Monahans event (interesting I have become good friends with Steve =
since=20
 then and have a great deal of respect for him). However, I have yet =
to meet=20
 a dealer who can hear a word I say on the topic. They seam to =
either "get=20
 it" or not and nothing said affects them one way or the=20
 other.        I heard of dealers =

 negotiating with people in Park Forrest only to have another dealer =
rudely=20
 interrupt with, "Hell, I'll give you more than THAT for it!" right =
on the=20
 spot. This is the kind of unthinking avarice that impacts price - =
not your=20
 report to the list you=20
 referenced.        Thank you for =
being a=20
 conscientious dealer - and a damned good reporter, too.=20
        Sincerely, Michael Blood =

 on 4/6/03 10:39 AM, Adam Hupe at adamhupe_at_attbi.com =
wrote: 
 <BLOCKQUOTE>Dear=20
 List, Here we =
go again!=20
  I am personally glad to be home after spending five intense =
days in=20
 the so-called "Urban Strewnfield".  For those of you who were =
not able=20
 to go you did not miss much.  The weather was horrible, most of =
the=20
 neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing.=20
   My =
brother, Greg=20
 arrived yesterday and met up with Al Lang to pick up an entire =
bedroom that=20
 had been hammered by one of these stones.  We will reconstruct =
the=20
 bedroom with the ceiling that had two holes punched in it, the =
venetian=20
 blinds that were split down the center, a metal windowsill with a =
huge=20
 impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, all hit by the same =
meteorite=20
 that thankfully missed a boy by inches as he was sleeping. =
 This=20
 collection will be displayed proudly next to the Peekskill car in a =
private=20
 museum.  We plan on possibly displaying the collection at the =
Tucson=20
 show next year if there is enough interest.  We acquired =
several other=20
 impacted items from all over the strewn field and will integrate =
them into=20
 another interpretive display. This represents the world's largest =
collection=20
 of man-made objects impacted by meteorites.  We feel it is =
important to=20
 preserve these historical items for future generations to enjoy.=20
     On=20
 another note: Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in =
a rural=20
 area?, maybe next time.  I do not believe the prices would have =
been so=20
 high if the stones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. =
 Word=20
 spread like wild fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices =
being=20
 realized for stones that hit things.  These street-smart =
finders then=20
 played a lot of dealers and collectors in the field for as much =
money as=20
 they could get and now everybody is paying the price.  You can =
blame=20
 dealers who lacked the patience to negotiate better prices and =
manage the=20
 situation in a professional manner for these high prices. =
 Instead=20
 money was thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding =
frenzy.=20
  I owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called =
"Park=20
 Forest - the pulling of teeth".  If I contributed in anyway to =
the high=20
 prices, I apologize.  I admit there were a few times when we =
paid more=20
 than we should have. <FONT=20
 face=3DArial>Wishing everybody well, <FONT=20
 face=3DArial>Adam Hupe IMCA 2185 <FONT=20
 face=3DArial>  </BLOCKQUOTE> The =
whole problem=20
 with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of=20
 themselves, but wiser people so full of =
doubts.    Bertrand=20
 Russell -- Worth Seeing: -  Earth at night from=20
 =
satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp=
_big.jpg -=20
 Interactive Lady =
Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -=20
 Earth - variety of =
choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html=20
 -- Panoramic view of Meteor=20
 =
Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/Me=
teorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html -- Cool=20
 Calendar &=20
 =
Clock:  http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Mich=
ael=20
 Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale=20
 =
at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ </BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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