[meteorite-list] NWA 482 questions
From: Matson, Robert <ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:07:05 2004 Message-ID: <AF564D2B9D91D411B9FE00508BF1C86901B4E4A6_at_US-Torrance.mail.saic.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2811A.BBBE7830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mike, I don't know what your personal beef is with Mr. Bostick and frankly don't care to know. Clearly you are reading a lot more into his post about NWA 482 than was present in his words. He made a statement (true or not) and asked a question. Stripping out the extraneous information about price and meteorite type, it boiled down to this: "...when the lunar meteorite NWA482 was being offered around morocco it was 1278 grams and not 1015 as later reported. ...what happened to the other 250 grams?" Your name was not mentioned once, and you were accused of nothing. And yet the mere asking of the above question drove you to threaten legal action? That is not a rational response, which is why one would have to assume there is some bad blood between you two. The sensible response would have been, "The stone weighed 1015 grams, no more -- I weighed it myself on my own scale. Based on the meteorite's shape, there's no way it could have once weighed 1278 grams and then lost 20% of its mass without it being obvious. Who is saying that it once weighed 1278 grams?" The burden of proof would then be on Mark to produce evidence, photographic or otherwise, that it ever weighed 25% more than the published TKW. As long as we're on the subject of NWA 482, perhaps you or someone else can shed some light on the entry that appears in Meteoritical Bulletin #86: "Northwest Africa 482, correction >From the day the meteorite was purchased it belonged to Adam and Greg Hupe (Hupe) and they still hold the main mass. The holder of the main mass listed in the Meteoritical Bulletin, No. 85 was incorrect." The first sentence of the listing in Meteoritical Bulletin #85 for NWA 482 was, "A 1015 g stone was purchased on 2001 January 10 in Alnif, Morocco, by Michael Farmer." The last sentence reads, "Specimens: half of the main mass is with Farmer; type specimens, 24 g, UCLA, and 18 g, UAz." So, we're all left wondering: who REALLY owns (or perhaps by now "owned") the main mass of NWA 482? Just so we're clear, there are no accusations here, only questions. Anyone reading the Meteoritical Bulletins should be just as perplexed as I. --Rob ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2811A.BBBE7830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3315.2870" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT: 10pt verdana"> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>Mike,</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>I don't know what your personal beef is with Mr. Bostick and frankly don't</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>care to </SPAN><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>know. Clearly you are reading a lot more into his post about</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>NWA 482 than was present in his words. He made a statement (true or</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>not) and asked a question. Stripping </SPAN><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>out the extraneous information</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>about price and meteorite type, </SPAN><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>it boiled down to this:</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>"</SPAN><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>...when the lunar meteorite NWA482 was being offered around morocco</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>it was 1278 grams and not 1015 as later reported. ...what happened to</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>the other 250 grams?"</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>Your name was not mentioned once, and you were accused of nothing.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>And yet the mere asking of the above question drove you to threaten</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>legal action? That is not a rational response, which is why one would</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>have to assume there is some bad blood between you two. The</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>sensible response would have been, "The stone weighed 1015 </SPAN><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>grams,</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>no more -- I weighed it myself on my own scale. Based on the</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>meteorite's shape, there's no way it could have once weighed 1278</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>grams and then lost 20% of its mass without it being obvious. Who</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>is saying that it once weighed 1278 grams?"</SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>The burden of proof would then be on Mark to produce evidence,</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>photographic or otherwise, that </SPAN><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>it ever weighed 25% more than the</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>published TKW.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>As long as we're on the subject of NWA 482, perhaps you or someone</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>else can shed some </SPAN><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>light on the entry that appears in Meteoritical</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>Bulletin #86:</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>"Northwest Africa 482, correction</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>From the day the meteorite was purchased it belonged to Adam and</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>Greg Hupe (Hupe) and they still hold the main mass. The holder of</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>the main mass listed in the Meteoritical Bulletin, No. 85 was incorrect."</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>The first sentence of the listing in Meteoritical Bulletin #85 for NWA 482</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>was, "A 1015 g stone was purchased on 2001 January 10 in Alnif,</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>Morocco, by Michael Farmer." The last sentence reads, "Specimens:</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>half of the main mass is with Farmer; type specimens, 24 g, UCLA,</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>and 18 g, UAz."</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>So, we're all left wondering: who REALLY owns (or perhaps by now</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>"owned") the main mass of NWA 482?<FONT face=Tahoma> Just so we're clear, there are no</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>accusations here, only questions. Anyone reading the Meteoritical Bulletins</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=349394619-31102002>should be just as perplexed as I. --Rob</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2811A.BBBE7830-- Received on Thu 31 Oct 2002 03:18:53 PM PST |
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