[meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)

From: azaware <azaware_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:07:00 2004
Message-ID: <000601c27212$557f9e80$0101a8c0_at_msn.net>

  Oh no not another Norton employee. You sound like you graduated from the
school of Bill Clinton, belittle the messenger.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Miconi" <mam602_at_cox.net>
To: "azaware" <azaware_at_msn.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)


> Having worked in the computer industry for almost 16 years I can tell you
> that viruses and their spread are the product of 2 things in this order:
>
> 1). Computer experts that have nothing better to do then find a way to
show
> their talent by creating a virus.
> 2). Malicious individuals that seek to cause havoc for various reasons.
>
> The reason that they are so prolific and spread so easily is that most of
> the users in this world are ignorant enough to believe that they will
never
> be infected. These are the same individuals that fall for telephone scams,
> buy the Banjo Minnow, and believe that they can swallow a pill and lose 50
> pounds in 6 weeks. These people are found in the dictionary....look under
> clueless and victims for pictures.
>
> Anyone that would even begin to believe that a company like
> Symantec(Nortons) would deliberately create a virus to sell their product
> regularly drink their own bath water and have a family tree that does not
> branch.
>
> With the general public walking about so completely clueless it would be a
> waste of capital for a company to invest in a R & D program to create
> something that already is being made for free and that the mainstream
> population is so willing to spread.
>
> There is a moral to all of this....Milk does not come from a jug, crime is
> not something that happens to your neighbor and being on the internet
> without virus protection is just plain stupid.
>
> Mark M.
> Arizona
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: azaware <azaware_at_msn.com>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
>
>
> > Below is a weeks worth of emails sent to me with viruses. I will grant
you
> > there really are some real lunatics out there, but what are we talking
> about
> > a couple ok 5 all right 10 a week. The reason I get so many is because
> this
> > Email is 7 years old, so I'm on every kind of list out there. I remember
> > when we didn't have viruses or Norton and now we have Norton and
viruses.
> I
> > wouldn't be surprise if Norton the company were started from the guys
who
> > started sending virus. I remember the first viruses, I can see it now
the
> > guy thought wow I can give this guy a virus then he can call me to fix
it.
> > And now you can call Norton on the phone and for $35 + $99 will help you
> get
> > it off. You almost sound like you work for Norton and this is something
> > Norton would not want to get around, because until now they was this
great
> > savor. Ok have the big guy at Norton give me a call I could be quit for
a
> > price! Other wise I going to expose those s.o.b's. Now you see all these
> > emails. I hardly think kids or these other people are going to go to
this
> > great length to take the time to send out this many viruses with all
these
> > different email address.
> >
> >
> > bogdanka_at_polj.ns.ac.yu
> > susan49842_at_hud.ac.uk
> > love_at_friends.org
> > kb922p_at_mailpride.com
> > mppmg_at_bolt.com
> > greg8835_at_yahoo.com
> > txbtm_at_care2.com
> > notbyyou_at_yahoo.com
> > toall_at_mce.co.jp
> > ptrkm8_at_lycos.com
> > bmw0mr09348r_at_hotmail.com
> > dnmle_at_ea.o
> > KIMMY_at_msn.com
> > test_at_hotbot.com
> > freeser_at_hotpop.com
> > smeer_at_bbs.mtlebanon.k12.pa.us
> > Trifecta01.10_at_reply.mb00.net
> > jhall_at_linkii.com
> > aaffds3_at_yahoo.com
> > abamba_at_nesda.org
> > jclgSam_at_mail.com
> > liveandnasty_at_email.com
> > optindeals.12_at_reply.mb00.net
> > jej_220021458_at_msn.com
> > Trifecta01.17_at_reply.mb00.net
> > Kelly.Evens4648_at_eudoramail.com
> > urggralbo56_at_rocketmail.com
> > danwilder_at_arabia.com
> > loliulretnamt_at_hotmail.com
> > vhypnosis_at_yahoo.com
> > kjjked333_at_qualitymail.com
> > optindeals.11_at_reply.mb00.net
> > freescreensaver_at_love4u.net
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:18 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] [OT] Re: Norton behind the Virus (!?)
> >
> >
> > > Dear Ken, Kim and List:
> > >
> > > I realize this is more than a little OT and probably wasting some
> > > people's time -- so I apologize in advance -- but I just couldn't
> > > resist. Of all the weird things I've seen on the M-List (and there
> > > have been plenty), accusing Symantec of creating new viruses in order
> > > to sell their own products is one of the nuttiest . . . right up
> > > there with the Frass meteorite even!
> > >
> > > Kim posted:
> > >
> > > > Norton has to behind this, who else is making out.
> > > > Norton paying these guys to this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken posted:
> > >
> > > >I agree with you, Norton was behind this!
> > > >I vowed then and there not to buy their product!
> > >
> > >
> > > People create viruses for all sorts of reasons: Kids do it for fun;
> > > anarchists do it because it's anarchistic; hackers target companies
> > > they don't like; disgruntled employees ditto; and so on. In the
> > > hacker subculture it is a major status symbol to have created a virus
> > > that's caused international mayhem. You may not have encountered
> > > these types of characters in real life but I have, and I assure you
> > > they are active, numerous, and damn clever. I suppose you could say
> > > they are the digital age's version of the neighborhood prankster.
> > > Some have eventually been employed by our own government, in a sort
> > > of "If we can't beat them, get them on the payroll" scenario.
> > >
> > > Symantec -- the company that manufactures Norton Antivirus, Norton
> > > Utilities, Systemworks, etc. -- is an excellent outfit and in my
> > > opinion vital to the professional computer user. I couldn't have kept
> > > my numerous computer stations running all these years with them. I've
> > > employed nearly all of their products for as long as I've been using
> > > computers for a living. They've helped me root out all kinds of virus
> > > trouble, hardware problems, prevented hackers getting into my
> > > systems, and on and on.
> > >
> > > I don't want to waste the List's time with OT discussions, but -- no
> > > offense intended -- your statements are absolute nonsense, and could
> > > actually be damaging by negatively influencing List subscribers who
> > > might otherwise buy these useful products. Hence the rebuttal.
> > >
> > > We all get angry over virus issues, and really I do sympathize with
> > > you guys, but posting preposterous statements about one of the few
> > > companies that combats the problem is not going to help. If you would
> > > like to discuss this further, please write to me off-List. I would be
> > > happy to furnish you with additional information on the subject that
> > > may be useful to you.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Geoff N.
> > > www.notkin.net
> > > www.paleozoic.org
> > >
> > >
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Received on Sat 12 Oct 2002 12:59:12 PM PDT