[meteorite-list] Jeff's online meteorite listing
From: Robert Verish <bolidechaser_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:00:08 2004 Message-ID: <20020719055510.62002.qmail_at_web10407.mail.yahoo.com> ------------- Original Message ------------- [meteorite-list] Jeff's online meteorite listing Matson, Robert ROBERT.D.MATSON_at_saic.com Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:09:31 -0700 Hi Jeff, I want to echo Bob's kudos -- your website tally is a nice on-line source of quick classification data. I found a few California entries that can be updated: ++++SNIP!++++ Cheers, Rob ------------ End of Original Message ------------- Hello Jeff and List, I just wanted to add one more thing. And I'm sure most readers of Rob Matson's post understood that the "updates" weren't meant to be any form of criticism. But just in case, I would like to make it clear that Jeff is in no way remiss for not having knowledge of those "updated classifications". Mainly, because they haven't been published, yet. So, aside from Alan Rubin and me, and the few people that I shared these "results" with, such as Rob, no one else could have knowledge of these "updated classifications". But wait, that's not quite true. I did supply all of these "updates" to Sara Russell , the Met. Bulletin editor, but she declined to forward them to the Nomenclature Committee for review, saying that it would be better for reviewing and referencing purposes to have all of these "updates" published somewhere. She suggested that I write up some abstracts. And I agreed. So, I went and wrote 6 abstracts and submitted them for the 65th Annual Met. Soc. Meeting, but they all got turned down! Their explanation - they are prohibited from accepting abstracts that don't conform to the nomenclature and classification as published in the Meteoritical Bulletin [period] Crikey, mate! It's a "Catch-22"! And worse, it was too late to go back to the Nomenclature Committee - the deadline had expired (because it was months earlier this year). Now, I don't want to give the impression that I was just being "jerked around" and that I was being treated as some sort of "bothersome collector", because this was actually all a result of bad timing and being a victim of circumstances. Nevertheless, I did fail to get all this information into the Meteoritical Bulletin (THIS year;-). But I'll try again NEXT year, and much earlier. So, I just wanted to say all of this "in my defense", because I don't want to be accused of "sitting on data". Okay, some of you may say, "Why didn't you let Alan Rubin handle all of this?" Simple. Because it's not his job. Besides, I was the "stake-holder" in this effort. What I mean is, this effort was initiated by me and the effort in tracking down these "historical" California meteorites, and acquiring/trading samples, was entirely mine. And, in the end, I succeeded in getting to Alan Rubin a sample from each of the last few uncharacterized California stony meteorites. And it wasn't just for the sake of getting the last few unclassified California meteorites a proper characterization. It was for purposes of determining pairing with recent meteorite finds that I (and some of my colleagues) had made, before we could request proper names from the Nomenclature Committee. This is what I meant by me being the "stake-holder". So, Jeff K., it's your decision. Go ahead and make the changes, anticipating that this time next year they will appear in the Meteoritical Bulletin, or keep what you have and only make changes after publication of reclassifications. (Or you can think about adding the phrase, "Pending Reclassification" or "Pending Nom Comm Approval":-) But I will point out one potential complication. Say, you revise your list with the "anticipated" reclassifications, but Bernd (and other independent database keepers) DON'T, then we're not all "working off of the same page"... ? How widely divergent will all of these databases become? And where do you draw the line? And finally, should you go ahead with the changes now, then you should feel equally comfortable with moving Gold Basin from the L4 column to the L6 column!! ;-))) Bob V. ---------------- Attached Message ------------------ [meteorite-list] New complete on-line listing of Meteorites. Jeff Kuyken jeff_at_meteoritesaustralia.com Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:02:59 +1000 G'day List, After many, many, many hours and much frustration I have finally completed a list of all meteorites arranged by classification and put it on my website. It is simply the names of meteorites by their classification and in alphabetical order. I have omitted some Antarctic meteorites, however there are probably a couple of thousand desert meteorites (eg. NWA, DAG, Dho etc). I have endeavoured to make the list as complete and accurate as possible however if anyone finds a mistake, (double-up, wrong class, etc) please let me know. I have found it very useful for my own personal use and I hope others will get just as much use. Thanks, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteoritesaustralia.com ---------------- End of Attached Message ------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com Received on Fri 19 Jul 2002 01:55:10 AM PDT |
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