[meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......LAST WORD
From: Meteordealer <meteor.dealer_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:48 2004 Message-ID: <003d01c1a070$58eb9520$bb753d04_at_vz.dsl.genuity.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C1A046.6FB87900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable << It took a year and the NWA CR2 was never $300- per gram.>> http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/NWAxxx.htm Brad Sampson meteor.dealer_at_gte.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randy Mils=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......LAST WORD Brad:=20 I see you had to wait until school was out until you answered my = questions. You still did not address how your definition of legit = meteorites relates to Lafayette which clearly does not fit according to = your definition. CR2 did not fall in price over a few days as you stated. It took a = year and the NWA CR2 was never $300- per gram. Anyone who pays $4 to $5 per gram for Brahim is just asking for = trouble with this ruster. And those who follow your advice to buy it and = hold it for the future will find that the future holds nothing but a = pile of rust and olivine crystals. Same with Brenham. There are a few = execptions depending on the sample but I would not want to make the bet. Randy >From: "Meteordealer"=20 >To:=20 >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......LAST WORD=20 >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:56:38 -0500=20 >=20 ><>=20 >=20 >No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% of their value practically = overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later they were $15g, = hence the entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo was upset = that the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed that the = Temple Bar, Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is = happening with the Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo = (CR2), $350g-$400g?=20 >=20 ><>=20 >=20 >Wagon Mound currently lists between $1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same = price i was selling it for 2 years ago. There are 2 pieces of WM on Ebay = that just sold for $2.28g and $11.72g.=20 >=20 ><>=20 >=20 >Brahin could be found online about 4 years ago for $4.50g-$5.00g. If = you go outside of Ebay it is still listed for $4g-$5.00g and selling for = that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last Summer for $4.00g. I = had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago wanting some Brahin or = Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a nice slice in the 100g = range. Ebay is not the end all be all determining factor of meteorite = value. You also have to factor in website prices, private sale prices, = and offline mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the artificially low = Ebay prices for Brahin. I would suggest buying as much Brahin as you can = as the price will be shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs out. That is = all i have to say on the subject. If anyone needs clarification as to = why rare types of NWA's are crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY as = i no longer wish to bore the list members with this endless debate. This = dead horse has been beaten long enough. ;-)=20 >=20 >=20 >Brad Sampson=20 >meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Randy Mils=20 > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:34 AM=20 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......=20 >=20 >=20 > Brad:=20 >=20 > Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette does = not qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by whom on = Lafayette.=20 >=20 > Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in = 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made = for shock value?=20 >=20 > Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it = was first found. This is just not a true statement. Actually I remember = when one dealer had a sale in which he GAVE AWAY a sample of Wagon Mound = with every purchase. Does this lower the value to zero. No, not anymore = than a sale on any commodity at a retail store.=20 >=20 > Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay for = less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/=20 >=20 > Randy=20 >=20 > >From: "Meteordealer"=20 > >To:=20 > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......=20 > >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20 > >=20 > > "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we know where, when, = total=20 > >mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning that the = appropriate lab=20 > >work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites other than an = NWA lost=20 > >95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i recall. Are most = NON=20 > >NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at about the same = price as=20 > >they always have? Yes.=20 > >=20 > >Brad Sampson=20 > >meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 > >=20 > >----- Original Message -----=20 > >From: "Michael Blood"=20 > >To: "Meteordealer"=20 > >Cc:=20 > >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20 > >Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > > Meteordealer wrote:=20 > > > > What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE = holding=20 > >steady.=20 > > > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites = on a daily=20 > > > > basis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price = they've=20 > >always=20 > > > > been or more.......=20 > > > > Brad Sampson=20 > > > > ______________________________________________________=20 > > > Well Brad,=20 > > > Let's get this strait: there is no (price) instability, there = are=20 > > > "legitimate"=20 > > > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the others (NWA, in = particular)=20 > > > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding steady."=20 > > > You have enlightened me to such a degree I have placed your = emial in=20 > > > the folder I formerly reserved for posts from Mohamed .... and I = don't=20 > > > mean=20 > > > Ali.=20 > > > Keep on truckin', dude.=20 > > > Michael=20 > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >______________________________________________=20 > >Meteorite-list mailing list=20 > >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 >=20 >=20 = >------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------=20 > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here = > ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list = mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing = list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C1A046.6FB87900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><<</FONT><FONT size=3D3> It took a year = and the NWA=20 CR2 was never $300- per gram.>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/NWAxxx.htm">http://www.alaska.net/~= meteor/NWAxxx.htm</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Brad Sampson<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">meteor.dealer@gte.net</A><BR></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dacculabs_at_hotmail.com = href=3D"mailto:acculabs_at_hotmail.com">Randy=20 Mils</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, 2002 = 4:58=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = Re: CR2=20 prices ruin......LAST WORD</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P>Brad: </P> <P>I see you had to wait until school was out until you answered my=20 questions. You still did not address how your definition of = legit=20 meteorites relates to Lafayette which clearly does not fit according = to your=20 definition.</P> <P>CR2 did not fall in price over a few days as you stated. It = took a=20 year and the NWA CR2 was never $300- per gram.</P> <P>Anyone who pays $4 to $5 per gram for Brahim is just asking for = trouble=20 with this ruster. And those who follow your advice to buy it and hold = it for=20 the future will find that the future holds nothing but a pile of rust = and=20 olivine crystals. Same with Brenham. There are a few = execptions=20 depending on the sample but I would not want to make the bet.</P> <P>Randy</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Meteordealer" <METEOR.DEALER_at_GTE.NET> <DIV></DIV>>To: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......LAST = WORD=20 <DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:56:38 -0500=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>><<PLEASE educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% = it?s=20 value in 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping = statements=20 made for shock value?>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% of their value = practically=20 overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later they were $15g, = hence the=20 entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo was upset that the = price of=20 his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed that the Temple Bar, = Arizona CR2=20 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is happening with the = Moroccan's?=20 What's the current value on Renazzo (CR2), $350g-$400g?=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>><<ALSO, just for Wagon Mound selling what sold per = gram when=20 it was first found. This is not a true statement.>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>Wagon Mound currently lists between $1.50g-$2.50g. = That's the=20 same price i was selling it for 2 years ago. There are 2 pieces of WM = on Ebay=20 that just sold for $2.28g and $11.72g.=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>><<BRAHIN on this your for selling sold per it once = $10-=20 gram. Now can be bought ebay less than $1- sometimes. How much are you = website? You seem have omitted the price one. http: www.angelfire.com = me2=20 meteorites to />>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>Brahin could be found online about 4 years ago for=20 $4.50g-$5.00g. If you go outside of Ebay it is still listed for = $4g-$5.00g and=20 selling for that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last Summer = for=20 $4.00g. I had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago wanting some = Brahin=20 or Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a nice slice in the = 100g=20 range. Ebay is not the end all be all determining factor of meteorite = value.=20 You also have to factor in website prices, private sale prices, and = offline=20 mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the artificially low Ebay prices = for=20 Brahin. I would suggest buying as much Brahin as you can as the price = will be=20 shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs out. That is all i have to say = on the=20 subject. If anyone needs clarification as to why rare types of NWA's = are=20 crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY as i no longer wish to bore = the list=20 members with this endless debate. This dead horse has been beaten long = enough.=20 ;-)=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>Brad Sampson=20 <DIV></DIV>>meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> ----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV></DIV>> From: Randy Mils=20 <DIV></DIV>> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 <DIV></DIV>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:34 AM=20 <DIV></DIV>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices = ruin......=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> Brad:=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite,=20 Lafayette does not qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by = whom on=20 Lafayette.=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of = it's=20 value in 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping = statements=20 made for shock value?=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per = gram=20 when it was first found. This is just not a true statement. Actually I = remember when one dealer had a sale in which he GAVE AWAY a sample of = Wagon=20 Mound with every purchase. Does this lower the value to zero. No, not = anymore=20 than a sale on any commodity at a retail store.=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be = bought on=20 ebay for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on = your=20 website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one.=20 http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> Randy=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>> >From: "Meteordealer"=20 <DIV></DIV>> >To:=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices = ruin......=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> > "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we = know=20 where, when, total=20 <DIV></DIV>> >mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning = that the=20 appropriate lab=20 <DIV></DIV>> >work and pairing has been done. Have any = meteorites other=20 than an NWA lost=20 <DIV></DIV>> >95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i = recall.=20 Are most NON=20 <DIV></DIV>> >NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at = about=20 the same price as=20 <DIV></DIV>> >they always have? Yes.=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Brad Sampson=20 <DIV></DIV>> >meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV></DIV>> >From: "Michael Blood"=20 <DIV></DIV>> >To: "Meteordealer"=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Cc:=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Meteordealer wrote:=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > > What instability??? Most legitimate = finds and=20 falls ARE holding=20 <DIV></DIV>> >steady.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market = prices of=20 many meteorites on a daily=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > > basis. Just about all of them i look at = are the=20 same price they've=20 <DIV></DIV>> >always=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > > been or more.......=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > > Brad Sampson=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > >=20 ______________________________________________________=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Well Brad,=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Let's get this strait: there is no (price)=20 instability, there are=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > "legitimate"=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the = others=20 (NWA, in particular)=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding = steady."=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > You have enlightened me to such a degree I = have=20 placed your emial in=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > the folder I formerly reserved for posts = from=20 Mohamed .... and I don't=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > mean=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Ali.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Keep on truckin', dude.=20 <DIV></DIV>> > > Michael=20 <DIV></DIV>> > >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >=20 <DIV></DIV>> >______________________________________________=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Meteorite-list mailing list=20 <DIV></DIV>> >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 <DIV></DIV>> = >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 <DIV></DIV>>=20 = <DIV></DIV>>----------------------------------------------------------= --------------------=20 <DIV></DIV>> Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN = Hotmail.=20 Click Here=20 <DIV></DIV>> ______________________________________________ = Meteorite-list=20 mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 <DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall> <HR> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: <A=20 href=3D"http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag2_etl_EN.asp">Click=20 Here</A><BR>______________________________________________ = Meteorite-list=20 mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</BLOCKQUOTE></BOD= Y></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C1A046.6FB87900-- Received on Fri 18 Jan 2002 05:34:52 PM PST |
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