[meteorite-list] LAST WORD,
From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:48 2004 Message-ID: <001e01c1a069$5eb4c500$0dd00140_at_computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1A037.06403080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brad, who gave you the right to the last word? It seems that the only = people who are crying that the NWA rare prices are crashing/The old Sky = is falling spiel, are the people who dont have anything to offer.=20 I have many things, and my prices arent crashing. If you want Brahin, = buy it up, you can have some nice $5 gram dust in a year or two. There = are so many hundreds of kilos of Brahin coming out that it makes Campo = look rare now.=20 Also please clarify one more thing Brad, you mentioned that you have = been in meteorites over 9 YEARS, WOW, I never heard your name until = about 2 years ago, and I live in Tucson and know about everyone in = meteorites. That would mean that you outdate almost every dealer out = there but Haag, Lang and Mitterling.=20 Any of you guys heard of Brad back then? It seems you are getting more = and more time under your belt exponentially.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original BMessage -----=20 From: Meteordealer=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......LAST WORD <<Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in = 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made = for shock value?>> No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% of their value practically = overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later they were $15g, = hence the entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo was upset = that the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed that the = Temple Bar, Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is = happening with the Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo = (CR2), $350g-$400g?=20 <<Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it = was first found. This is just not a true statement. >> Wagon Mound currently lists between $1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same = price i was selling it for 2 years ago. There are 2 pieces of WM on Ebay = that just sold for $2.28g and $11.72g. <<Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay = for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/>> Brahin could be found online about 4 years ago for $4.50g-$5.00g. If = you go outside of Ebay it is still listed for $4g-$5.00g and selling for = that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last Summer for $4.00g. I = had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago wanting some Brahin or = Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a nice slice in the 100g = range. Ebay is not the end all be all determining factor of meteorite = value. You also have to factor in website prices, private sale prices, = and offline mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the artificially low = Ebay prices for Brahin. I would suggest buying as much Brahin as you can = as the price will be shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs out. That is = all i have to say on the subject. If anyone needs clarification as to = why rare types of NWA's are crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY as = i no longer wish to bore the list members with this endless debate. This = dead horse has been beaten long enough. ;-) Brad Sampson meteor.dealer_at_gte.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randy Mils=20 To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin...... Brad: Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette does = not qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by whom on = Lafayette. Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value in = 24 hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping statements made = for shock value? Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it sold per gram when it = was first found. This is just not a true statement. Actually I = remember when one dealer had a sale in which he GAVE AWAY a sample of = Wagon Mound with every purchase. Does this lower the value to zero. = No, not anymore than a sale on any commodity at a retail store. Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on ebay = for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for on your = website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. = http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/ Randy >From: "Meteordealer"=20 >To:=20 >Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......=20 >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20 >=20 > "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we know where, when, = total=20 >mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning that the = appropriate lab=20 >work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites other than an = NWA lost=20 >95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i recall. Are most = NON=20 >NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at about the same = price as=20 >they always have? Yes.=20 >=20 >Brad Sampson=20 >meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20 >=20 >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "Michael Blood"=20 >To: "Meteordealer"=20 >Cc:=20 >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20 >Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20 >=20 >=20 > > Meteordealer wrote:=20 > > > What instability??? Most legitimate finds and falls ARE = holding=20 >steady.=20 > > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices of many meteorites = on a daily=20 > > > basis. Just about all of them i look at are the same price = they've=20 >always=20 > > > been or more.......=20 > > > Brad Sampson=20 > > > ______________________________________________________=20 > > Well Brad,=20 > > Let's get this strait: there is no (price) instability, there = are=20 > > "legitimate"=20 > > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the others (NWA, in = particular)=20 > > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding steady."=20 > > You have enlightened me to such a degree I have placed your = emial in=20 > > the folder I formerly reserved for posts from Mohamed .... and I = don't=20 > > mean=20 > > Ali.=20 > > Keep on truckin', dude.=20 > > Michael=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >______________________________________________=20 >Meteorite-list mailing list=20 >Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brad, who gave you the right to the =
last word? It=20
seems that the only people who are crying that the NWA rare prices are=20
crashing/The old Sky is falling spiel, are the people who dont have =
anything to=20
offer. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have many things, and my prices arent =
crashing.=20
If you want Brahin, buy it up, you can have some nice $5 gram dust in a =
year or=20
two. There are so many hundreds of kilos of Brahin coming out that it =
makes=20
Campo look rare now. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also please clarify one more thing =
Brad, you=20
mentioned that you have been in meteorites over 9 YEARS, WOW, I never =
heard your=20
name until about 2 years ago, and I live in Tucson and know about =
everyone in=20
meteorites. That would mean that you outdate almost every dealer out =
there but=20
Haag, Lang and Mitterling. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any of you guys heard of Brad back =
then? It seems=20
you are getting more and more time under your belt exponentially. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dmeteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20
href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">Meteordealer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, 2002 =
3:56=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Re: =
CR2 prices=20
ruin......LAST WORD</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><<<FONT size=3D3>Please educate us on which =
NWA=20
meteorite lost 95% of it's value in 24 hours. Was this just =
another of=20
your broad, sweeping statements made for shock=20
value?>></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>No problem. NWA CR2's have lost 95% =
of their=20
value practically overnight. One day they were $300g, a few days later =
they=20
were $15g, hence the entire reason this discussion was started, Matteo =
was=20
upset that the price of his NWA CR2's had crashed. Have you noticed =
that the=20
Temple Bar, Arizona CR2 is still going for $300g-$500g despite what is =
happening with the Moroccan's? What's the current value on Renazzo =
(CR2),=20
$350g-$400g? </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><<Also, Wagon Mound is not =
selling for=20
what it sold per gram when it was first found. This is just not =
a true=20
statement. >></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Wagon Mound currently lists between =
$1.50g-$2.50g. That's the same price i was selling it for 2 years ago. =
There=20
are 2 pieces of WM on Ebay that just sold for $2.28g and=20
$11.72g.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3><<Brahin once sold for $10- =
per=20
gram. Now it can be bought on ebay for less than $1- =
sometimes. =20
How much are you selling it for on your website? You seem to =
have=20
omitted the price on this one. <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/">http://www.angelfire.co=
m/me2/meteorites/</A>>></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Brahin could be found online about =
4 years ago=20
for $4.50g-$5.00g. If you go outside of Ebay it is still listed for =
$4g-$5.00g=20
and selling for that price i might add. I sold out of Brahin last =
Summer for=20
$4.00g. I had a collector email me a couple of weeks ago =
wanting=20
some Brahin or Brenham. He said he was willing to pay $5g for a=20
nice slice in the 100g range. Ebay is not the end all be all =
determining=20
factor of meteorite value. You also have to factor in website prices, =
private=20
sale prices, and offline mail order prices. Don't be fooled by the=20
artificially low Ebay prices for Brahin. I would suggest buying as =
much Brahin=20
as you can as the price will be shooting back up as soon as Ivan runs =
out.=20
That is all i have to say on the subject. If anyone needs =
clarification as to=20
why rare types of NWA's are crashing feel free to email me PRIVATELY =
as i no=20
longer wish to bore the list members with this endless debate. This =
dead horse=20
has been beaten long enough. ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV>Brad Sampson<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:meteor.dealer_at_gte.net">meteor.dealer@gte.net</A><BR></DIV>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dacculabs_at_hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:acculabs_at_hotmail.com">Randy=20
Mils</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 18, =
2002 7:34=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Re: CR2=20
prices ruin......</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P>Brad:</P>
<P>Based upon your criteria of a "legitimate" meteorite, Lafayette =
does not=20
qualify. We do not know for sure when, where or by whom =
on=20
Lafayette.</P>
<P>Please educate us on which NWA meteorite lost 95% of it's value =
in 24=20
hours. Was this just another of your broad, sweeping =
statements made=20
for shock value?<BR><BR>Also, Wagon Mound is not selling for what it =
sold=20
per gram when it was first found. This is just not a true=20
statement. Actually I remember when one dealer had a sale in =
which he=20
GAVE AWAY a sample of Wagon Mound with every purchase. Does =
this lower=20
the value to zero. No, not anymore than a sale on any =
commodity at a=20
retail store.</P>
<P>Brahin once sold for $10- per gram. Now it can be bought on =
ebay=20
for less than $1- sometimes. How much are you selling it for =
on your=20
website? You seem to have omitted the price on this one. =
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites/">http://www.angelfire.co=
m/me2/meteorites/</A></P>
<P>Randy</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Meteordealer" <METEOR.DEALER_at_GTE.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: CR2 prices ruin......=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:06:50 -0500=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> "Legitimate" meaning it has a unique name and we =
know where,=20
when, total=20
<DIV></DIV>>mass, how, and by whom it was found. Also meaning =
that the=20
appropriate lab=20
<DIV></DIV>>work and pairing has been done. Have any meteorites =
other=20
than an NWA lost=20
<DIV></DIV>>95% of their value in a 24 hour period? Not that i =
recall.=20
Are most NON=20
<DIV></DIV>>NWA's with the exception of a few still selling at =
about the=20
same price as=20
<DIV></DIV>>they always have? Yes.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Brad Sampson=20
<DIV></DIV>>meteor.dealer_at_gte.net=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Michael Blood" <MLBLOOD_at_COX.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>To: "Meteordealer" <METEOR.DEALER_at_GTE.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>Cc: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:41 AM=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: CR2 prices ruin......=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Meteordealer wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > What instability??? Most legitimate finds =
and=20
falls ARE holding=20
<DIV></DIV>>steady.=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > I'm a dealer. I compare the market prices =
of many=20
meteorites on a daily=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > basis. Just about all of them i look at =
are the=20
same price they've=20
<DIV></DIV>>always=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > been or more.......=20
<DIV></DIV>> > > Brad Sampson=20
<DIV></DIV>> > >=20
______________________________________________________=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Well Brad,=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Let's get this strait: there is no (price) =
instability,=20
there are=20
<DIV></DIV>> > "legitimate"=20
<DIV></DIV>> > falls and finds - meaning, I suppose, the =
others (NWA,=20
in particular)=20
<DIV></DIV>> > are "illagitimate" and prices are "holding =
steady."=20
<DIV></DIV>> > You have enlightened me to such a degree I have =
placed=20
your emial in=20
<DIV></DIV>> > the folder I formerly reserved for posts from =
Mohamed=20
.... and I don't=20
<DIV></DIV>> > mean=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Ali.=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Keep on truckin', dude.=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Michael=20
<DIV></DIV>> >=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>______________________________________________=20
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