[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

From: John Teague <volgems_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 12:44:29 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Message-ID: <652176914.1815.1592160269473_at_wamui-gaston.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It never ceases to amaze me ... someone floats a 'controversial' idea, implying they want input ... and when that input does NOT necessarily agree with their original idea, act totally offended!

At such a point, I must ask, why? Why did you ask for 'input'?


-----Original Message-----
>From: Marcin Cima?a - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Jun 14, 2020 12:07 PM
>To:
>Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
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>sorry, end of bullshit :)
>I go back to Facebook
>Stay safe in silence.
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>-----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
>http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
>--------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
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>Take it private if you want to argue.
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>On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cima?a - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote:
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>> Hi Marcin,
>>
>> I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I
>> have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I
>> just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation
>> of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites
>> like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to
>> control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to
>> nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It
>> does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or
>> civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or
>> innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality
>> of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It
>> needs us.
>>
>> =====
>> Nothing personaly ofcourse.
>> I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I
>> never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some
>> persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h
>> banned
>> once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was
>> not
>> connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political
>> posts
>> You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail
>> time". It was lesson.
>>
>> I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly
>> platform
>> but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I
>> understand.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the
>> dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media
>> field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the
>> Met-List.
>>
>> =======
>> me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it
>> was
>> many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but
>> without
>> photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than
>> TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its
>> up
>> on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read
>> newspapers. You eat what they serve You there.
>>
>>
>> A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many
>> do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what
>> works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to
>> become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up
>> and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already
>> noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more.
>> Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I
>> think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has
>> stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be
>> mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had
>> their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into
>> silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and
>> Amazon.
>>
>> To each their own, but long live the List!
>> MikeG
>>
>> ========
>> I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in
>> meteorite group about my new slices.
>> Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange
>> that You have used FB before so what happend ?
>>
>> Nothing personaly Michael.
>>
>>
>> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
>> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/14/20, Marcin Cima?a - POLANDMET <marcin at polandmet.com> wrote:
>> > This is not a good point. You missing it.
>> > Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy
>> > newspapers You think are worth Your money.
>> > Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to
>> > watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are
>> > crap,
>> >
>> > You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to
>> > another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or
>> > You
>> > go
>> >
>> > to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You.
>> >
>> > You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than
>> > cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better
>> > than
>> > Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices,
>> > unpug
>> > Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant.
>> >
>> > My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it
>> > is
>> >
>> > like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite
>> > groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that
>> > I
>> > want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera
>> > groups.
>> > Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery
>> > channels,
>> >
>> > National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news
>> > channels
>> >
>> > or some other crap things in TV.
>> >
>> > Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3
>> > valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will
>> > tell
>> >
>> > Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I
>> > dont think soo.
>> >
>> > Think about this
>> >
>> > -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
>> > http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>> > http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
>> > --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Marcin and List,
>> >>
>> >> Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because
>> >> Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing.
>> >> This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that
>> >> spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive
>> >> algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior
>> >> that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account
>> >> and couldn't be happier about it.
>> >>
>> >> Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I
>> >> will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin
>> >> approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook.
>> >>
>> >> Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> MikeG
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
>> >> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> >>> Hello list
>> >>> I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this
>> >>> list
>> >>> dead
>> >>>
>> >>> ?
>> >>> Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet
>> >>> Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info
>> >>> about
>> >>> meteorites and thousand of users.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new
>> >>> classification
>> >>> should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of
>> >>> Meteorites
>> >>>
>> >>> but
>> >>>
>> >>> reference photos submited with classification and provided by
>> >>> specimen/main
>> >>>
>> >>> mass holder.
>> >>>
>> >>> When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few
>> >>> photos
>> >>>
>> >>> of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice.
>> >>> This
>> >>> will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if
>> >>> slice
>> >>>
>> >>> I just bough look like reference photo.
>> >>>
>> >>> Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but
>> >>> they
>> >>> stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name
>> >>> in
>> >>> Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really
>> >>> should
>> >>> look
>> >>>
>> >>> like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now
>> >>> smartphone
>> >>> with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of
>> >>> incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not
>> >>> for
>> >>> everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens
>> >>> in
>> >>> Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some
>> >>> representative
>> >>> photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ?
>> >>> Whats
>> >>> the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone
>> >>> to
>> >>> prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested
>> >>> informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find
>> >>> etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some
>> >>> good
>> >>> will
>> >>>
>> >>> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
>> >>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>> >>> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
>> >>> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
>> >>>
>> >>>
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Received on Sun 14 Jun 2020 02:44:29 PM PDT