[meteorite-list] Neutralizing Hydrazine?

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 12:40:15 -0400
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Sales of all hydrazine-contaminated, Chinese space debris are hereby
suspended until further notice....



On 3/25/18, E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dirk -
> Meteorite hunters regularly saw up meteorites with high nickle content.
> This nickle poisons their brains and regularly produces bizarre brain
> function.
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> Yeah, the peroxide is what I found with a quick search.
> As far as "getting anywhere near materials from Tiangong-1",given "their"
> travel times, "any fall site on land" will likely be arrived at by others
> before "they" can declare it "off limits". "They" also have absolutely no
> skills in dealing with local land owners.
> Take along a couple of cameras, and who knows, you might get a few pictures
> of "them".And you might be able to sell those pictures for some nice
> change.
>
> Moving on:
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>> BTW- Any and All of Tiangong-1 is property of the People's Republic of
>> China and under international law must be returned to China if found, i.e.
>> if you find something "significant" you will likely be met by U.S.
>> Marshalls, XYZ, etc. and forced to return the "finds".
> Wouldn't standard international salvage laws apply?Now that China has
> wealthy collectors, I assume the laws of the market may likely come into
> play as well.
> As has been pointed out before, "It is glorious to be prosperous!"
> good hunting, everyone,E.P.
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> On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 9:55:22 PM EDT, David Mouat
> <Dave.Mouat at dri.edu> wrote:
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> Extremely unlikely that any hydrazine would be left.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 22, 2018, at 4:34 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
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>> Ed and List,
>>
>> E.P. Grondine asks,
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>> "So how do you neutralize hydrazine?"
>>
>> The answer to your first question about neutralizing hydrazine see below (
>> I personally think that this is way to DANGEROUS for any meteorite hunters
>> to be doing and should be left to military or properly trained HAZMAT
>> team.).
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>> Safety and Handling of Hydrazine - Defense Technical Information ...
>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https:////dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/p005339.pdf&c=E,1,-N58HI1cOCWh8JZZUZBmC_DcsARBA4-TdhBAUDnueBvJw3ZnDvq_KlSTt-lgXN_eW4YSt-j08t2Qp8IRPuXDm2uBRFnrJJfWXGBDEk9AaOSqQA3WderP7cBr&typo=1
>> by DK Simpson - ?1986 - ?Cited by 2 - ?Related articles
>> water and will eventually consume all of the hydrazine, producing only
>> nitrogen and water. Use of a dilute oxidizer solution will speed up the
>> neutralization reaction. An aqueous solution (5% or less) of sodium
>> hypochlorite or calcium hypochlorite (prepared from swimming pool dry
>> chlorinator) or dilute hydrogen peroxide.
>>
>> E.P.'s second question-
>> "Anything else to be wary of?" There may be radioactive material aboard
>> the craft. It would be a good idea to use a Geiger Counter to check for
>> safety prior to handling any material IF found.
>>
>> The likelihood of any civilians getting anywhere near materials from
>> Tiangong-1 as slim as any fall site on land will be off limits if it
>> located.
>>
>> BTW- Any and All of Tiangong-1 is property of the People's Republic of
>> China and under international law must be returned to China if found, i.e.
>> if you find something "significant" you will likely be met by U.S.
>> Marshalls, XYZ, etc. and forced to return the "finds".
>>
>> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>>
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>> ________________________________
>> From: E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 4:42 AM
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Neutralizing Hydrazine?
>>
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>>
>> Hi all -
>>
>> With Tiangong comind down, is anyone here planning to hunt for pieces?
>>
>> Usually, the spacecraft pieces hunters find have been exposed to water for
>> a long time,
>> but this time that will not be the case, assuming that Tiangong comes down
>> in a searchable area.
>>
>> So how do you neutralize hydrazine? Anything else to be wary of?
>>
>> good hunting, all,
>>
>> E.P.
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