[meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
From: Darryl Pitt <darryl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 12:21:33 -0500 Message-ID: <E7B4E463-5039-48BF-A777-F7AF4B6AC4B3_at_dof3.com> Hi Everyone? Just picked up on this thread and I agree with MikeM. However, more to his point, Gibeon sold for as little as $16/kg ? and spectacular specimens. The Gibeon Owl ? the cover lot of the Heritage Meteorite catalog of several years back ? that?s right, acquired for $16/kg. Certainly there are specimens of Sericho which are wanting, but anyone who passes on a chance to purchase good material for $2.00/g let alone $0.20/g will find themselves wanting. If possible, examine the exterior rind before making an acquisition If the olivine and metallic matrix are clearly articulated, there?s an excellent chance you?re good. When the exterior surface exhibits a lack of material differentiation, that?s when serious weathering has occurred and I would suggest being far more cautious. All the best / Darryl > On Dec 4, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Mike Miller via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > Hello all I rarely post to the list, but felt compelled to point out the obvious. First of all to the HUGE TKW of this find. Do you remember all those tons and tons of $100 per kilo Gibeons that used to be floating around? All gone.... How about the metric tons of Seymchan pallasites.....yep all gone. Or maybe the cargo ships laden with Campo's, you guessed it almost all gone. Sericho will also be all gone in 10 short years or less. > Now to the stability of Sericho, yes it helps to get a big dry specimen to start with, but most any pallasite can be stabilized. Many times crappy preparation has resulted in a rusty meteorite, and many more times good preparation techniques have resulted in a lifetime of beautiful pallsites in many peoples collections. The Sericho will be just fine, no matter what the big time know it all's say about it. > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again! > > > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even > > in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend. Now that the show has > > ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson. > > > > I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector > > reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee. > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > >> > >> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving > >> your sofa is required. > >> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can?t recall you > >> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your > >> experience. > >> Michael Farmer > >> > >> > >>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list > >>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Oops, Chevy > >>> > >>> > >>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0 > >>> > >>> Rob > >>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" > >>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > >>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM > >>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein) > >>> > >>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to > >>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that > >>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster. I received several reports today of > >>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping noises > >>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious > >>>> ruster. > >>>> > >>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other > >>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade > >>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display. > >>>> > >>>> I avoid rusters at all costs, > >>>> > >>>> Adam > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote: > >>>>> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and > >>>>> don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. :-D > >>>>> > >>>>> If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who > >>>>> actually has experience working with the meteorite in question. > >>>>> > >>>>> Additionally, > >>>>> Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. > >>>>> Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That > >>>>> distinction needs to be made. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> John A. Shea, MD > >>>>> IMCA 3295 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or > >>>>>> clear-coat surface. It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its > >>>>>> preparation. Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces > >>>>>> of > >>>>>> any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease." Not > >>>>>> only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by > >>>>>> trapping moisture. It is important to store this material in low > >>>>>> humidity environments with plenty of air circulation. Also, exposure > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are > >>>>>> several > >>>>>> metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen > >>>>>> was > >>>>>> around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Happy Collecting, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Adam > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote: > >>>>>>> Hello Dear List Members, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite > >>>>>>> owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it? > >>>>>>> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, > >>>>>>> similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just > >>>>>>> fortuity > >>>>>>> or is it really so? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your answers, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Andrey, > >>>>>>> IMCA#6240 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > >>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > >>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > >>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > >>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > -- > > > > Rock On! > > Ruben Garcia > > www.RubenMrMeteoriteGarcia.com > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > -- > Mike Miller Kingman Az 86409 > www.meteoritefinder.com > EBay ID flattoprocks > www.killerbeesgone.com > http://www.ebay.com/sch/flattoprocks/m.html?item=330705933783&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&_trksid=p4340.l2562 > > IMCA #2232 > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Tue 05 Dec 2017 12:21:33 PM PST |
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