[meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!

From: Ben Fisler <fislerite_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:40:05 +0000
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I saw the map in an article on reviewjournal.com
        Ben

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> On Dec 29, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Larry Atkins <thetoprok at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Ben, List,
>
> Ben says "The map of the Gold Butte National Monument that I saw on line,
> went from the border of the Lake Mead Recreational Park on the west,
> to the Arizona Border on the east and south, and almost to the the
> highway near Mesquite to the north."
>
> That encompasses the Nevada side of GB, game over! I sure am glad I got in there when I did.
>
> I think the vast majority of people are all for protecting archeological sites, dino bones and tracks, etc. I sure am. However, I've always been a fan of the 'middle of the road' when it comes to many things, it doesn't always have to be all or nothing. Closing off that much land makes no sense at all and Adam hit the nail on the head, there's such a thing as over regulation. And hey Mike, you don't have to make all that land off limits to stop trailer parks, be serious friend. I spent weeks and weeks in the Gold Butte area and saw nary a soul. This place has built in protections.. it's remote! The few people I saw didn't even get out of the car let alone pillage and plunder, and again, like Adam said, if thieves have a mind to steal, they will, and with impunity because nobody is there to report them anyway. I'm all for protecting what needs protecting but some of this stuff is out of hand. If laws are going to be passed like this there should be input from the people that actually use the land and have a
n interest in it, and some common sense should be applied.
> An example of nonsense rules, I can't collect pottery chips or worked stone but it's perfectly legal and okay for the cattle to pulverize it into oblivion. That makes no sense and leads to a lack of confidence in the officials that make the policies. Or how about not being able to swim in some of the reservoirs in California because it's a protected water body, but look over there, it's a herd of 40 cows standing chest deep dropping poop bombs into the drinking water! Someone needs to explain the logic in these things if they think it's the right way to manage the land.
>
> We all know that prohibiting the collection of meteorites on federal land is a bad idea. Those meteorites will never be found by scientists or "officials" and thus will be lost to science forever. How about some compromise?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry Atkins
>
> IMCA # 1941
> Ebay alienrockfarm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Fisler via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Larry Atkins <thetoprok at aol.com>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; raremeteorites <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 2:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
>
> The map of the Gold Butte National Monument that I saw on line,
> went from the border of the Lake Mead Recreational Park on the west,
> to the Arizona Border on the east and south, and almost to the the
> highway near Mesquite to the north.
> Ben
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 29, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> Adam, List,
>>
>> I've not seen the boundary lines for the Gold Butte closure but I think it's safe to say a large portion of the Nevada side Gold Basin strewn field is now off limits, how unfortunate.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Larry Atkins
>>
>> IMCA # 1941
>> Ebay alienrockfarm
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Dec 29, 2016 9:49 am
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Land Grab In Nevada And Utah!
>>
>> Another 1.65 million acres on top of the record setting 553 million acres,
>> including the entire Mohave corridor, has taken out of action by Obama with
>> no input from the public whatsoever.
>>
>> http://mynews4.com/news/local/obama-names-gold-butte-nevada-monument-despite-opposition
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/29/obamas-historic-land-grab-553-million-acres-conservation/
>>
>> This is what meteorite hunters and future generations will be greeted by:
>>
>> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/Jeep/ClosedNationilizedTrail.jpg
>>
>> Note the logs blocking a once, well used trail! I wonder how many trees
>> have to be cut down in order to "protect" an additional 1.65 million acres.
>>
>> People who have never left urban areas should not make choices about land
>> they have never seen!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
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