[meteorite-list] Beware of dealing with Fayssal Mezgouri

From: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohnshea_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:44:17 +0200
Message-ID: <trinity-e3e998b8-169c-4d0d-aa13-967f78cda137-1461098656375_at_msvc-mesg-gmxus004>

Mezgouri Fayssal,

You appear to be claiming that it is not your responsibility to be certain about what the classifications are for the specimens that you sell. That may be the standard line for Moroccan merchants, but that does not inspire confidence in your future buyers.

What you are unaware of doesn't just impact your buyer, it impacts you too. If you want your buyers to feel like they should trust you, then you need to provide for them what you claim you can provide. Otherwise it becomes obvious that you are not truly aware of the classification for the specimens you sell, and that is a very good reason for others to avoid doing business with you.



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On 4/19/16 at 10:55 AM, Mezgouri Fayssal via Meteorite-list wrote:

> Dear list membres?i need to let you know my history ?with jack, before we make a deal i send him a sample when he get it he said is agree to take a piece also i still keep this email , in 11/11/2010 so i need to know whay he ?said that i cheat him , cuz he had a sample in his hand !! evrybody in my place will do the same i pay the rocks and i shipp it i keep only profite about 570$now i need to solve this probleme but i can find any solution already i pay the owner of the rocks and he give us enouth time at i get answer from jack is ok?there is email that i get from jack?all my best?Jack Schrader?<jack.schrader at cox.net>?'Mezgouri Fayssal'11/11/10 ? 10:20 PMHello Fayssal my very best of friends!? I today received the parcel containing the 135 gram stone (probably an LL6) and the angrite samples.? Please give me your best price for the 450 grams of angrite material.? Thank you again for the photos and for the offer and the samples, my very best wishes to you and your family, your friend, Jack??Mezgouri Fa
yssal cell +212663398272?
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> Le Mardi 19 avril 2016 13h01, PolandMET via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> a ?crit :
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> Thanks John.
> Im not sure how difficult is to recognize fake sword, but recognizing
> meteorites is rather easy (to me). In this case it was my own fault. I
> belived to what he write and didnt look on photos close enough. Specimen was
> too cheap and second it didnt look like 100% diogenite on photos. But
> becouse I bough from him earlier, and I was satisfied with my purchases I
> didnt questioned what he say. This is typical when routine kick Your ass :)
>
> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
> http://www.Meteoryty.pl ? ? ? ? ? ? marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
> http://www.PolandMET.com ? ? ? marcin(at)polandmet.com
> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
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> > Dear List,
> >
> > I have blocked him from the Meteorites group on facebook so that he cannot
> > use that as a resources for his scams.? It is a shame that the meteorite
> > community continues to be an uncertain place for collectors and merchants
> > to use their hard earned funds.
> >
> > As a collector of antique Japanese swords as well, I will say that the
> > amount of fraud I see in the sales of meteorites is considerably less than
> > what I see in the sword collecting community.? Perhaps we are doing
> > something right that other collecting communities are not.
> >
> > Hope everyone is having a good week thus far.
> > Cheers,
> > John A. Shea
> > IMCA 3295
> >
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> > On 4/19/16 at 6:42 AM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list wrote:
> >
> >> Hi list
> >> I have same experienxes. In 2010 I bough from him 1100g surprisingly
> >> cheap
> >> diogenite and received badly weathered LL6
> >>
> >>? ? ? helle my friend
> >>? ? ? here is the picture of meteorite i have look at the picture and let
> >> me
> >> know .
> >>? ? ? the big one is 1155 gr Diogenite like NWA1877
> >>? ? ? kind regards
> >>
> >>
> >>? ? ? Mezgouri Fayssal
> >>? ? ? cell +212668693856
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> >>
> >> I lost 2200$ never get even a gram of weathered L6 as a refund. I send
> >> this
> >> specimen back to Said Haddany to try to return it to Fayssal but this
> >> didnt
> >> work so I pick it back and now its classified. Maybe I can get most of my
> >> money back selling it.
> >> There is soo many 100000% trusted persons in Morocco so no need to buy
> >> anything from "dealers" like Fayssal.
> >>
> >> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]----[ +48 793567667 ]-----
> >> http://www.Meteoryty.pl ? ? ? ? ? ? marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
> >> http://www.PolandMET.com ? ? ? marcin(at)polandmet.com
> >> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
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> >>
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear list members, Please beware of dealing with this Moroccan dealer.
> >> > Five years ago, he cheated me out of $6250.00. I bought what was
> >> > supposed
> >> > to be a rare meteorite from him only to receive a weathered H5
> >> > chondrite.
> >> > For four years I tried to no avail to get my money back even after he
> >> > admitted to sending me a weathered H5 instead of the stone I was
> >> > supposed
> >> > to receive. I even had Aziz Habibi intervene for me to no avail. He
> >> > made
> >> > promise after promise after promise to return my money. I was even
> >> > willing
> >> > to take an equal amount of common chondrites instead of the money. If
> >> > you
> >> > send money to this Fayssal Mezgouri, you may find yourself out of a lot
> >> > of
> >> > cash. Jack Schrader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab?|PRO
> >>
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