[meteorite-list] Ron Hartman Collection items coming to Tucson

From: Raremeteorites <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:04:00 -0800
Message-ID: <6531E5CBD54F4D4AA6C407A50B6255C2_at_HPDESKTOP>

Bob Versih Stated:

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But recent threads have been perfect examples. Personal agendas about the
meteorite market, the Tucson Show, the BLM, and Nevada meteorites have been
shown to have no basis in reality, let alone in fact. This is resulting in a
great deal of misinformation.
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If you are referring to me in some of this diatribe, these statements are
based on fact. I have no dog in this fight. Just calling things as I see
them. I will not hesitate to expose tuff issues, B.S. and those who rip
others off. I just call it as I see it! There is a piece on the 5:00 news
tonight about the BLM trying to pull off another land grab in Nye County,
Nevada. This after trying to remove 12 million acres out circulation in
Alaska! The BLM is closing roads and trails at an incredible rate including
those here in my yard in Clark County, Nevada! What ever for?

The State of Nevada and Water Resource Engineers sided with me after I
opened a case against a corporation for violating my land owner rights and
trespassing. This corporation invaded my ranch in Washoe County by
installing a 2000' foot plus canal and dam on my property, without an
easement, before an application for a permit was even submitted. The greedy
group diverted billions of gallons of water from a creek, a spring and a
tributary on my ranch into a reservoir so that they could charge other
ranchers. This water used to reach other ranches unobstructed and for free.
The only thing I am asking is for them to restore my property to its
original pristine condition and let the water flow unobstructed as it did
before their intrusion. It will be fun to see the dam being blown and the
canal buried over now that they have no legal leg to stand on.

I have no problem with local government, especially when they are doing
their jobs. My problem is when people or corporations have no respect for
others property. In then there is a thing called governmental
overregulation!.

Adam







----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Verish via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: "Meteoritecentral List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: "Gmail" <mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman Collection items coming to Tucson


Yes, it is common knowledge that Ron's son, Jim, sold many of the meteorites
from his father's collection.
So, it MAY be that Jim was the executor of the estate, but in no way would I
call Jim the "curator". But that is in the past.

I'm just the messenger here, but what I do know for certain is that the
owner of the R.N. Collection is Ron's wife, Petra Hartman.
I know that she has designated (in a notarized letter) a friend of the
family to be in charge of the collection. He has agreed in writing:
that he "will not be paid for this work - not for labor, nor for expenses".
This is the person that I am calling the present "curator".
By the way, I am also volunteering my time and effort with this collection
"pro bono" at the request of the curator (and as a friend of the family).
So, forgive me if I show little patience with all of these distractions.

Reader's of this List should take note that I have clearly stated what I
know to be fact from those statements which are only "to the best of my
knowledge".
Too many posts to this List are stating conjecture and opinion (promoting an
agenda) as if it were actual fact. This is not to reflect on those who have
replied to this thread.
But recent threads have been perfect examples. Personal agendas about the
meteorite market, the Tucson Show, the BLM, and Nevada meteorites have been
shown to have no basis in reality, let alone in fact. This is resulting in a
great deal of misinformation.
What I find worse is that obviously untrue statements are going
unchallenged. With the sole exception of Mike Farmer, nobody is questioning
these posts for their basis in fact.

Whoa!! Just saw all of the replies about my post. Gotta go; no more time
left for dispelling rumors...
Bob V.


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On Tue, 2/3/15, Gmail via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman Collection items coming to Tucson
 To: "Robert Verish" <bolidechaser at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "Meteoritecentral List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
 Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015, 7:11 AM

 The only actual
 "curator" would be Jim Hartman, Ron's son. I
 worked with Jim over the course of 12 months to acquire a
 large amount of the collection. I know of 3 other people who
 also bought from Jim. The only thing I am calling myself is
 grateful. A fair number of these pieces will remain in my
 collection forever like my 32.5kg Campo, 13kg Canyon Diablo
 found by Ron himself and 20g slice of Thiel Mountain an
 Antarctic pallasite, to name a few.

 My only regret is that I never got a chance to meet this great man.

 I have been selling some of his collection and will continue to do so.

 I will also continue to buy old collections, so if anyone is considering
doing so
 then let me know.

 Best,

 Mendy Ouzillou

 On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:20 AM, Robert Verish via
 Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
 wrote:

 I'm forwarding a
 message from the curator for the Ron Hartman Collection,
 that he will be in Tucson later this week and will be making
 available some specimens from that collection.
 Here is a short list of some of the specimens
 being offered for trade or sale:

 ID# 35) Clover Springs Mesosiderite 6.6255 g. V. Good Corner slice. (SMB)
 ID# 37) Bensour, Morocco Ordinary Chondrite, LL6 5.69 g. Individual. Fell
2-11-2002
 ID# 49) Cleo Springs Ordinary Chondrite, H4 53.9 g. Good Slice
 ID# 55) Songyuan [label has printed:
 "Fuyu, (proposed name)"] Jilin, China Ordinary Chondrite, H5 13.75 g.
Part-slice. Fell 8-15-1993 (ex. mhmeteorites)
 ID# 56) Hebron Stone H6 Brecciated 17.19 g. Good Part slice. Thayer Co.
Nebraska
 ID# 70) Silver Dry Lake Ordinary Chondrite, L4 S2 W2 1.272 g. Good endcut,
nice fusion crust. [On HOLD]
 ID# 79) Dar al Gani DaG 749 Carbonaceous Chondrite CO3 12.622 g. V. Good -
Rectangular slice.
 ID#380) Sahara SAH 99433 OC Stone 56.86 g. V. Good thick complete slice.
 ID#875) Pallasovka Pallasite 11.0 g. V. Good quarter-circle slice.

 The curators contact information will not be known until after he arrives
in Tucson. In the meanwhile,
 if you are interested in making an offer or trade, you can reply to me and
I will relay your messages.

 Bob Verish
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