[meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens
From: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohnshea_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 04:44:06 +0100 Message-ID: <trinity-84a45add-9cf3-4885-990e-c43dcfe03a06-1449546245656_at_msvc-mesg-gmxus003> Bill, there is one meteorite from the country of Afghanistan. It had to be exported by the Diplomatic corps in the late 50's and went straight to the Swiss Museum of Natural History. It is a miracle that any of it got out to us private collectors at all. There are 5 California falls, with hundreds of specimens in private collections, and 275 other meteorites from California. Who cares how many buyers from the Mid-East there are? Why are you not getting this...? Kandahar is a rare historic fall. Creston is a new fall that you can still buy on ebay and other websites. One is rare the other by comparison is not. Whether you base the definition of rare on simple numbers of available specimens, or historic value, a specimen like Kandahar is rare. Plain and simple. Anyway... Getting late here... Not gonna respond on this any more. Waste of time... Sent using the mail.com mail app On 12/7/15 at 9:56 PM, bill kies via Meteorite-list wrote: > Don't you care about your previous statements concerning the insignificance of L6 meteorites? i'm sorry but an l6 from cal will always mean more than the same from AF. How many BUYERS from the mid east are there?. I'm sorry but you're assessement of fresh American witnessed falls no matter what the cost is BS. Find me some illinois falls/finds other than PF. > > And in all simplicity can you discount one L6 to another in the same thread? > > Due Regards, > Bil > > ________________________________________ > From: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohnshea at mail.com> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 8:33 PM > To: bill kies > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens > > Sorry, but 6 specimens amoung all private collections is rare. To disagree is just being stubborn. > > > > Sent using the mail.com mail app > > On 12/7/15 at 9:29 PM, bill kies wrote: > > > No person can define rarety. It's an individual decision. You have expressed multiple decisions that are clearly contradictory as well as biased. > > > > Reasearch your own statements. The Afghan met has less value then any Cal Met for obvious reasons. Wise up > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohnshea at mail.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 7:54 PM > > To: bill kies > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens > > > > Nope not contradicting myself at all. > > > > Creston is not historic. Kandahar is. > > > > Creston is one of a handfull of California falls and there are specimens still available to this day. Kandahar is one of a kind for Afghanistan, and there are literally only six in private collections. > > > > If you can't see the difference then you aren't understanding what makes a meteorite truly rare and valuable. > > > > > > > > Sent using the mail.com mail app > > > > On 12/7/15 at 8:43 PM, bill kies wrote: > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your consideration but it's always been obvious that you can't and I mean "CAN'T" discount the personal meaning of any fall/find to anyone that was awakened to the whole scenario by the event. It's a big deal when a met falls in your backyard. > > > > > > > > > > > > But you made a big deal about a fresh Cal find that Cal collectors love. I have to dis your opine as you have contradicted yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > From: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohnshea at mail.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 7:07 PM > > > > > > To: bill kies > > > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > I was selling the Afghan at my cost. That's the major difference. I can count on one finger the number of times I made a profit selling a meteorite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the Kandahar meteorite is an historic fall. The only meteorite from Afghanistan. This not some new fall that a merchant overpaid for then tried to recoupe his expense by selling at too high a price. There are only six pieces of Kandahar in private collections. > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent using the mail.com mail app > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/7/15 at 7:54 PM, bill kies wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bigjohn" Aren't you the same fellow that made a big deal out of 300 a gram for an L6 Cal met and then offered an afhgan L6 met for around 700 a g???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> on behalf of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 5:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: Michael Farmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list; impactika at aol.com; valparint at aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD-New additions, no reserve auctions. Ragland, Bingol, D'Orbigny, Lunars, Museum specimens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like an outlyer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The average of the prices available is what I base offers on. Also recently sold prices matter too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent using the mail.com mail app > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/7/15 at 6:38 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. If you say so. I've sold canyon Diablo and Taza at $500 gram on eBay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Farmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The listing price on ebay is actually more of a suggestion then anything else. I always make offers via email for ebay listings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most people usually take a fair offer. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent using the mail.com mail app > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 12/7/15 at 6:33 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I wasn't aware that eBay set the prices. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Michael Farmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 2:22 AM, Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On a brighter note, Bingol is only $113/g but you might be able to bargain it down to $100! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> How the mighty have fallen :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Paul Swartz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> IMCA 5204 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> MPOD Web Master > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> www.TucsonMeteorites.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Amazing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> A lunar (NWA 8277) for $30/g. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> And a L6 (Creston) for $300/g. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Did the Earth reverse rotation overnight? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Anne M. 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